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Louise14

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Thu Nov 19, 2020 3:52pm:

if you have a second home here in Spain then the rules for residencia do not apply.  You will pay non resident tax for the property and all the overhead costs of IBI, water and electric connection standing charges but do not need a minimum income,  However the 90 days in any 180 apply s...

...o you have to decide if it is worth the costs to maintain 2 homes.  and of course you need travel insurance cover for health while in Spain.

Hi,

I thought you would be able to apply for a visa if you want to stay longer than the 90 days in 180?

Garyb2020

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:47pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:47pm

DarioMartin wrote on Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:18am:

If you want to know what the Spanish will do next year, take a look at the current Third Country National requirements.  It’s not going to change.

Spain is not going to bend over backwards for the Brits. Anyone who thinks that Brits are so important to Spain, that they are going to make special arrangements is still living in fantasy land....

...

L181SKY, whilst you may not have been talking about Residency, if you want more than 90 days consecutively, then that’s your only option.  As a Third Country National, Schengen rules prohibit a stay of longer than 90 days ... just because Portugal has cheaper and more favorable migration laws doesn’t mean as a TCN you can get round the 90 day Schengen rule.  You want to spend 180 days in a row in Portugal or Spain or France or anywhere else in the Schengen? You have to migrate. End of story. And even then, you will be bound by that countries requirements of continuous residency to maintain the visa.

You. Cannot. Do. 180 days in a row. After December 31st. As a tourist. Anywhere in Europe (That’s in the Schengen Zone).

Are you able to move to other European countries, ie, Spain 90 days and then move on to Portugal or Italy and the like so long as you don’t do 90 days in each?

DarioMartin

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:29pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:29pm

Garyb2020 wrote on Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:47pm:

Are you able to move to other European countries, ie, Spain 90 days and then move on to Portugal or Italy and the like so long as you don’t do 90 days in each?

No, sadly not - the 90 days maximum applies to the entire Schengen zone, it’s not per country.  So once you have done 90 days, you have to leave the Schengen zone for an equivalent period i.e. another 90 days before you can return.  Effectively that means you could do France, Spain, Portugal, Italy etc for 90 days total, not in each.

You COULD exit the Schengen by going to countries that aren’t in the Schengen - Romania and Cypress come to mind.  Say you did close to three months in Spain / Portugal / France driving around; if you then went to either Cypress or Romania (to name but two) then the amount of time you spent there would begin decreasing your “time in Schengen” clock.

HOWEVER - those countries may or may not have their own visa entry / maximum stay regulations

DarioMartin

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:35pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 11:35pm

Louise14 wrote on Mon Nov 30, 2020 9:31pm:

Hi,

I thought you would be able to apply for a visa if you want to stay longer than the 90 days in 180?

No.  There is no “long stay” visa for the Schengen countries.  As a tourist, once you have done 90 days, you MUST leave the Schengen zone for an equivalent period.

Sanctions for third country nationals who overstay can be quite severe, with fines and even a ban on re-entering for a period.  Please note, a ban effectively stops you returning to Europe for its period, as the ban applies to the entire Schengen zone, not just the country you overstayed.

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