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Matthew

Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:33am

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Posted: Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:33am

Lorelei wrote on Wed Aug 3, 2022 10:17am:

Hi everyone. I'm thinking of making Spain my home. In October I'll have a pension of €1200. Will this be enough? I'm assuming rent of €400 per month plus bills to be taken from this

Hi Lorelei, You're getting some good advice here. I wish you well in your adventure (and it most likely be a welcome adventure). Get the basics right and everything else will fall into place.

1. Accommodation:- Ensure it is what you can afford and provides all you want and location-wise is suitable to you. If you don't have a car, then public transport is important. However, you know more about these than anybody looking in. Measure twice and cut once as good carpenters say.

2. Do not sell your property in your mother country. If things go pearshape for you in Spain an organised retreat is much more palatable than a humble retreat. Avoid sudden rushes of blood to the head in important matters. Bear in mind the moving to Spain adventure has a relatively short shelf life and after a few years real reality sets in. Be ready for any deviation in your plans. 

3. I would advise that before you put any plan into effect, you should rent in Spain for three months in the off season. You'll learn more during this time than any advice on this forum. 

More Advice:- Drive on, tread slowly and believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear. Then you won't be doing anything wrong.

Lorelei

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 2:32pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 2:32pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:51pm:

Yes to both you and Lorelei.  The most expensive thing is likely to be electricity, but get recommendations for the provider you go with - I'm with Iberdrola and have their "Choose 8 Hours" plan, which means I can select any 8 hours (not needed to be contiguous and doesn't need to be the sam...

...e every day) per day where I have my cheap rate.  My bill for June was 60,36€ and that's two people, running Airconditioners etc.

Internet - I use Digi Fibre.  I pay 30€ per month for 1 GB/s internet and an additional 12€ for two mobile numbers that each have 20 GB data per month (that rolls over if unused) and unlimited national calls. (6€ each)

Water is around 38€ every two months.

Food.  Food is reasonably cheap - certainly cheaper than UK if recent visitors from UK I have hosted are correct (and I have no reason to doubt they are)  I can't give you an accurate idea of how much you'll pay in food as it will depend entirely on what you eat and drink ... but neither of us like shopping so we go shopping and do a *Big* shop once every 6 to 8 weeks and stock up the freezer / larder / cupboards etc and that's usually around 550€.  We probably spend an extra 50€ to 100€ per month on Milk, Bread, Drink (Beer / Wine / Port etc etc etc) and other consumables.

You can get everything you need in Mercadona / Lidl / Dia etc, although if you cannot manage without "the taste of home", then there is Icelands who stock Waitrose / Jacks brand goods (and Sainsbury's if memory serves), but the prices reflect the fact that it is a niche product with a captive market .... I'll say no more than that.

You can also get a lot of English products at SuperTurre in Turre, and they do tend to be cheaper than Icelands.

Depending on where you want to live, and what you want to live in, 400€ is a reasonable rent and properties can still be found within that price range.  The closer you are to the beach though, the higher the prices.  I'm in a third floor apartment in Vera Playa, 63 Sq Metres but barely two minutes walk from the beach.  I can see the sea and beach from my roof terrace and that costs me 450€ per month.  Take into account many landlords will slap "Basura" on top of the rent - rubbish collection - and that is around an extra 12€ per month.

Eating out isn't too expensive - again, depending on what you want and where you go.  The Wok in Vera is one of my favourites (YES!! I Admit it!!) and for 11,50€ you get an all you can eat buffet and can get your food cooked fresh right in front of you.  Plenty of places do a reasonably priced Menu del Dia which is always worth investigating.  Just be sure to find out whether or not bread is complimentary or extra ... a little thing I know, but can push the price of the meal up.

Drinks ... well for coffee, you can expect to pay around 1,20€ a cup.  No idea about beer / wines / spirits as I buy my own :-D

Depending on your lifestyle, 1200€ to 1600€ should see you quite nicely.  If you are driving, don't forget to budget for yearly insurance, ITV, Servicing etc etc (yes, yes, I know - you already know how to budget, but it bears mentioning when you are trying to allocate your monthly funds)  Diesel is currently at around 1,80€ a litre but there is a government mandated 0,20c discount of the pump price, so in reality you are paying around 1,60€ a litre for diesel .... sorry, no idea of the petrol price.

This isn't meant to be a definitive guide, but should hopefully help settle your mind(s) that 1200€ and 1600€ is definitely enough to live here.  Maybe not like a King, but most certainly comfortably.

EDIT:  just seen when original posts was put up - well over a year ago, so this response is more aimed at Lorelei

Thank you so much for all the information. One more question. Is it very quiet in winter or are there bars cafes restaurants open?

DarioMartin

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 8:42pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 8:42pm

Lorelei wrote on Sun Aug 7, 2022 2:32pm:

Thank you so much for all the information. One more question. Is it very quiet in winter or are there bars cafes restaurants open?

That depends entirely on where you are.  Here in Vera Playa it quietens down a bit, and obviously a lot of the Chiringuitos (beach bars) close, but plenty of bars and restaurants remain open.  Same as for Mojácar and Garrucha.

devo49

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:56pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 10:56pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Aug 3, 2022 8:51pm:

Yes to both you and Lorelei.  The most expensive thing is likely to be electricity, but get recommendations for the provider you go with - I'm with Iberdrola and have their "Choose 8 Hours" plan, which means I can select any 8 hours (not needed to be contiguous and doesn't need to be the sam...

...e every day) per day where I have my cheap rate.  My bill for June was 60,36€ and that's two people, running Airconditioners etc.

Internet - I use Digi Fibre.  I pay 30€ per month for 1 GB/s internet and an additional 12€ for two mobile numbers that each have 20 GB data per month (that rolls over if unused) and unlimited national calls. (6€ each)

Water is around 38€ every two months.

Food.  Food is reasonably cheap - certainly cheaper than UK if recent visitors from UK I have hosted are correct (and I have no reason to doubt they are)  I can't give you an accurate idea of how much you'll pay in food as it will depend entirely on what you eat and drink ... but neither of us like shopping so we go shopping and do a *Big* shop once every 6 to 8 weeks and stock up the freezer / larder / cupboards etc and that's usually around 550€.  We probably spend an extra 50€ to 100€ per month on Milk, Bread, Drink (Beer / Wine / Port etc etc etc) and other consumables.

You can get everything you need in Mercadona / Lidl / Dia etc, although if you cannot manage without "the taste of home", then there is Icelands who stock Waitrose / Jacks brand goods (and Sainsbury's if memory serves), but the prices reflect the fact that it is a niche product with a captive market .... I'll say no more than that.

You can also get a lot of English products at SuperTurre in Turre, and they do tend to be cheaper than Icelands.

Depending on where you want to live, and what you want to live in, 400€ is a reasonable rent and properties can still be found within that price range.  The closer you are to the beach though, the higher the prices.  I'm in a third floor apartment in Vera Playa, 63 Sq Metres but barely two minutes walk from the beach.  I can see the sea and beach from my roof terrace and that costs me 450€ per month.  Take into account many landlords will slap "Basura" on top of the rent - rubbish collection - and that is around an extra 12€ per month.

Eating out isn't too expensive - again, depending on what you want and where you go.  The Wok in Vera is one of my favourites (YES!! I Admit it!!) and for 11,50€ you get an all you can eat buffet and can get your food cooked fresh right in front of you.  Plenty of places do a reasonably priced Menu del Dia which is always worth investigating.  Just be sure to find out whether or not bread is complimentary or extra ... a little thing I know, but can push the price of the meal up.

Drinks ... well for coffee, you can expect to pay around 1,20€ a cup.  No idea about beer / wines / spirits as I buy my own :-D

Depending on your lifestyle, 1200€ to 1600€ should see you quite nicely.  If you are driving, don't forget to budget for yearly insurance, ITV, Servicing etc etc (yes, yes, I know - you already know how to budget, but it bears mentioning when you are trying to allocate your monthly funds)  Diesel is currently at around 1,80€ a litre but there is a government mandated 0,20c discount of the pump price, so in reality you are paying around 1,60€ a litre for diesel .... sorry, no idea of the petrol price.

This isn't meant to be a definitive guide, but should hopefully help settle your mind(s) that 1200€ and 1600€ is definitely enough to live here.  Maybe not like a King, but most certainly comfortably.

EDIT:  just seen when original posts was put up - well over a year ago, so this response is more aimed at Lorelei

Dario your best yet. Informative and precise. If only all comments could be like that . Thank you Devo 

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devo49

Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 11:11pm

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Posted: Sun Aug 7, 2022 11:11pm

Matthew wrote on Thu Aug 4, 2022 9:33am:

Hi Lorelei, You're getting some good advice here. I wish you well in your adventure (and it most likely be a welcome adventure). Get the basics right and everything else will fall into place.

1. Accommodation:- Ensure it is what you can afford and provides all you want and location-wise is suitable to you. If you don't have a car, then public transport is important. However, you know more about these than anybody looking in. Measure twice and cut once as good carpenters say....

...

2. Do not sell your property in your mother country. If things go pearshape for you in Spain an organised retreat is much more palatable than a humble retreat. Avoid sudden rushes of blood to the head in important matters. Bear in mind the moving to Spain adventure has a relatively short shelf life and after a few years real reality sets in. Be ready for any deviation in your plans. 

3. I would advise that before you put any plan into effect, you should rent in Spain for three months in the off season. You'll learn more during this time than any advice on this forum. 

More Advice:- Drive on, tread slowly and believe half of what you see and nothing of what you hear. Then you won't be doing anything wrong.

And me old pal Mathew . The good old bars are open all year in mojacar but obviously the beach bars shut last week in October first week November. There used to be darts league and I think a pool league is still going . Various quiz nights etc so still life goes on in the winter sun . Most of all nice weather ,nice people and nice area . Really good value menu del dai still live music . It’s a great place to winter and breakfast on your terrace in the sun . Enjoy 

Matthew

Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 7:55am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 7:55am

devo49 wrote on Sun Aug 7, 2022 11:11pm:

And me old pal Mathew . The good old bars are open all year in mojacar but obviously the beach bars shut last week in October first week November. There used to be darts league and I think a pool league is still going . Various quiz nights etc so still life goes on in the winter sun . Most of all...

... nice weather ,nice people and nice area . Really good value menu del dai still live music . It’s a great place to winter and breakfast on your terrace in the sun . Enjoy 

. . . and don't forget the walking groups where there is no membership fee and you just turn up without flip flops and enjoy the walks. If you want Nordic poles you can buy them in the Chinese shops. (Devo, I had a bad week at Galway).

Lorelei

Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:36am

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Posted: Mon Aug 8, 2022 10:36am

Thank you for all your help everyone. My daughter lives in Torrox, so I'd love to be close to her, but not too close.

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