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Tax and town hall

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:55am
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John99andrew

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Finally got my Tax demand sorted out, in all it cost me 540 euros on a solicitor to get it overturned,no thanks to Arboleas Town Hall putting me on the Padron when I was not a resident, 

The Town Hall does this just to get extra money from central government and don’t care a sod about people having to sort things out when they get a bill from the tax authorities, please people be aware.

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 8:53pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 8:53pm

How did they manage to put you on the Padrón without you making an application to go on the Padrón?

Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:05pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:05pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Feb 8, 2023 8:53pm:

How did they manage to put you on the Padrón without you making an application to go on the Padrón?

When we first bought a villa in Arboleas it was just a holiday home, we where new to Spain and we where told we had to go on the Padron, as you will know you need to go on the Padron for lots of legal thing when buying property etc ,when we first arrive here, you trust the authorities and don’t realise that you have take yourself of when you have completed the legal work, we even had the local police lady emailing us saying when you are back in Spain to call in and re register back on the pardon, knowing we where none residents

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:36pm

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Posted: Wed Feb 8, 2023 11:36pm

John99andrew wrote on Wed Feb 8, 2023 10:05pm:

When we first bought a villa in Arboleas it was just a holiday home, we where new to Spain and we where told we had to go on the Padron, as you will know you need to go on the Padron for lots of legal thing when buying property etc ,when we first arrive here, you trust the authorities and don’t...

 

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... realise that you have take yourself of when you have completed the legal work, we even had the local police lady emailing us saying when you are back in Spain to call in and re register back on the pardon, knowing we where none residents

I’m guessing you missed the posts I put out a while back saying “if you are non-resident, DON’T go on the Padrón, if you are on and non-resident, de register with all possible haste”

Trouble is, when you buy a house, lawyers will often tell you you have to go on the Padrón and will tell you there is no problem with that.  This is because, it seems, property lawyers in Spain are exceptionally good at what they do, but know absolutely sh*t about migration / non-resident matters and to keep your money, will often tell you what they think you want to hear, rather than what is true.

The Ayuntamiento will also encourage you to go on the Padrón - as you’ve correctly identified, it means more money to them.  It’s not necessarily that they don’t care what happens to you - more that often, a funcionario simply doesn’t know and will tell you what he / she believes to be the case.

But your post has highlighted an important point, and again one I raised a while ago - that of the tax implications … so, to ANY OTHER non-residents, (other than John99Andrew) reading this post : DO NOT REGISTER ON THE PADRÓN UNLESS YOU ARE A RESIDENT. IF YOU ARE NON-RESIDENT AND ON THE PADRÓN, DE-REGISTER FORTHWITH.

As the original poster can advise, it may save you a lot of heartache and legal bills.

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:42am

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:42am

No I did se your post, but it was 2016 to 2017  that they where claiming tax for  when we were not resident, we made ourself resident in February 2017

Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:38am

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Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:38am

John99andrew wrote on Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:42am:

No I did se your post, but it was 2016 to 2017  that they where claiming tax for  when we were not resident, we made ourself resident in February 2017

Ah - righty ho then.  Here’s hoping at least that your experience will prove a valuable lesson for others.

There’s still far too many who ignore advice not to register simply because Ayuntamiento / Solicitors have told them it’s “OK”.  There’s no better teacher than actual experience - I’m truly sorry you had to go through that, but many many thanks for sharing your experience here as a lesson / warning to others in the same situation.

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