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Residence and NIE No coupled with Buying Home

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:28pm
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Albert

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My wife and I are viewing properties this coming week with a view to making an offer and securing a lawyer (giving them POA) before we head back to the UK on the 2nd Match 2019. We plan to use this as a holiday home and keep within the 180 day rule but not necessarily within the 90 day rule. We know that our lawyer will obtain our NIE numbers as part of the 'conveyancing process' but more importantly will he or she apply for residencia as part of this process or is that something that is done when we are the new owners? If the lawyer is able to apply for residencia along side the NIE, are we able to get this 'fast tracked' so we obtain residencia before the 29th March? Also, I understand there is an English lady lawyer that I have seen on the forum before (but can't find now!) if someone could pass on her details as well as advising on the above that would be great. Thank you.

BobL

BobL

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Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:11pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:11pm

Hi,

I believe from Rob that Maria at Mundi Abogados at Bouganvillia Roundabout speaks English.

Also you have Ana and Salvador at Grupo Salvador. Paseo de Mediterraneo, Mojacar Playa (we use this firm for everything-brilliant communication )

& lastly

Amanda Oakley of ALO Services, Zurgena.

All Companies are on Google Search but Ana at Salvador's is

950 473 192

[email protected]

If.you speak to them/ Ana please mention Dr./Coln Bob and Sandra. We switched to them and have been delighted.

If anyone can meet a deadline it's them.

Saludos,

Bob and Sandra

Mojacar Playa and Puerto Lumbreras

Mariella70

Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:37pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:37pm

Hi 

I do know you have to be on the padron before applying for residency to be on the padron you have to own or have a rental property I believe so your deadline could be tigh

Albert

Albert

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Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:15pm

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Location: Turre

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:15pm

Great thanks Bob

Regards Alan

chrisso50

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Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:32pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:32pm

To obtain residency you have to actually live here. Secondly you will have to be on the padron. Thirdly you have to apply and present yourself with passports and other requisite documents in person - a solicitor or gestor cannot do it for you alone. And if you have children they have to accompany you to the appointment at Oficina de Extranjeros in Almeria City.

Good luck but I really doubt this would be possible before 29 March as there is currently a backlog for residency because so many already living here had not previously applied...

BobL

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Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42pm

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Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:42pm

Hi,

My understanding from guidelines just published is that if you apply before 29/3/19 & are in the pipeline then you are included in a yet undetermined/ unquantified 'grace period'.'Agree it will be tight & Solicitors are apparently overwhelmed.

So glad we have been legal for so long and from a time when it was so simple a procedure.

Best wishes to all those trying to register.

Bob and Sandra

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:06am

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:06am

I agree with Chrisso, and Bob - yes, from my understanding (although who actually understands what’s going on ..... ?) if the application for Residencia is lodged before 29/3, you’ll be processed as if you appeared at Oficina de Extranjeria before 29/3 ... that being said, as Chrisso has highlighted elsewhere on this forum in several excellent Brexit update posts, after 29/3, things could be a little .... tricky .... anyway. See THIS link for full details.

Again, Chrisso is quite right - to obtain Residencia you must be on the Padrón - i.e. have rented or bought a place and presented yourself at the Ayuntamiento with proof of such, passports etc and obtained a Certificado de Empadronamiento.  You must then also meet income requirements and health care requirements - these are not insurmountable, obviously, but it’s also not a case of just filling in paperwork and having it stamped - you must meet requirements or you will not get Residencia.  Very briefly, requirements are:  1) be on Padrón and have Certificado of Empadronamiento. 2) have either private health care; or be on Spanish health care system by living and working in Spain and paying Autónomo; or (at this point) be a Pensioner and covered under current reciprocal agreement with UK.  3) be in receipt of an income derived from work, rental income from overseas or any other form of remuneration which I believe must be equivalent to 5.200,00 € per annum, provable by bank statement; or produce a Spanish Bank certificate showing an annual average balance of 9.750,00 € per person applying; or be a pensioner and in receipt of UK pension.

(NOTE: this is just a very very brief outline - there are more “if’s” and “buts”, I know)

And yes, you must appear at Extranjeria in person; A representative with POA cannot obtain Residencia for you.

Un saludo, Darío 

chevyrecycler34

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:24pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:24pm

Proof of pensionable income to satisfy income requirements must be garnered by way of the S1 form from the overseas pensions department in Newcastle, you can fone them to request the form.

For people under pensionable age you need to provide proof of income from whatever source you have available.

Under pension age you'll need private medical, over pension age, pensionista you need to go through the Spanish social security system to get youre medical card and get onto/into the Spanish medical system. We got medical cards in town after going through the procedure for registering with our local doctor's surgery, takes a few weeks to a couple of months.

NIE will be issued when you purchase a property and that number is yours for life.

Padrons are a requirement at youre local town hall just like a census really as the more people who are registered, the more money can be applied for from central government in Madrid. Our local mayor is campaigning for more funds for staffing and equipment for the local La Inmaculada hospital to this effect.

Quite a few things go through the foreigners office down in Almeria, partner and myself used the excellent CamConcepts in Huercal Overa, both Chris and Mandy are english and speak excellent fluent Spanish and are very helpful. We both got Residencia thru/with them, Spanish driving licences, which have to be obtained 6 months after getting residencia, NIE during partners villa purchase, would highly recommend them.

Doubtless somethings I've missed. Most likely lots of people who are clogging up the systems are people who have been as it were flying under the radar for years.

chrisso50

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:06pm

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 7:06pm

We obtained a NIE in June, after arriving, as we needed one at the time to get internet installed. We could have waited until August when we obtained Residency as the NIE is included as part of the Residency registration process. 

Albert

Albert

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Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:46pm

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Location: Turre

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Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:46pm

Excellent facts. Thank you Dario and everyone else.

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