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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 12:05pm
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Albert

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Good morning

Armed with copies of NIE number and Escritura (all 39 pages of it!!) and original passport and copy, does anybody know where to go in Turre and whether or not I would need the services of a translator for purposes of putting myself on the Padron? Thank you very much

Carwyn99

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:28pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 5:28pm

Padron’s are issued by The Town Hall. 

Rob20B

Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13pm

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13pm

We finally got ourselves added to the Padron in Los Gallardos last week after 3 years as we will be spending more than 183 days in Spain from next year and will be going for residencia as well shortly. I don't know about the town hall in Turre but in LG I had to complete the forms in Spanish accompanied by escritura and passports. They didn't ask for NIE numbers. Not a word of English was spoken throughout the form-filling process but it was all very friendly and they were tolerant of my Spanish. It cost €1.50 to get the copies of the signed certificates 6 days later.

Rob
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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13pm

Rascalmate

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Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13pm

I have applied for Padrons in different areas in Spain over the last 10 years.

I have always printed my requirements in Spanish together with a list of documents I am producing. Never had a problem!

DarioMartin

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:34pm

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Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 8:34pm

Rob20B wrote on Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:13pm:

We finally got ourselves added to the Padron in Los Gallardos last week after 3 years as we will be spending more than 183 days in Spain from next year and will be going for residencia as well shortly. I don't know about the town hall in Turre but in LG I had to complete the forms in Spanish acco...

...mpanied by escritura and passports. They didn't ask for NIE numbers. Not a word of English was spoken throughout the form-filling process but it was all very friendly and they were tolerant of my Spanish. It cost €1.50 to get the copies of the signed certificates 6 days later.

Rob
Los Gallardos/Palomares

Well done Rob, that’s excellent, very glad to hear.  Just a quick word on your lengths of stay.

There’s two different amounts regarding lengths of stay which get a bit confusing:

The first is the 90 days in any 180 day rule - that requires Residencia (at the moment ...) it is a misnomer that you can stay for as long as you like on an EU passport.  You can live and work in Spain for up to 90 days on an EU passport.  Any more than 90 days in any one 180 day period requires, as I say, Residencia.

The second one is the one you’ve touched on - 183 days.  If you spend 183 days or more in Spain, you are obliged to be resident for TAX purposes.  This involves contacting HMRC and advising them that you are now “normally resident” (i.e. more than 183 days a year) in Spain.  You cease to pay tax as a UK resident and are now taxed as a Spanish resident and pay tax in Spain.

This last one is why some people either spend less than 6 months in Spain or pretend they do - they don’t want to be taxed in Spain, preferring the lower UK taxation rate.

Albert

Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:30pm

Albert

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Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 10:30pm

Thank you all for your good advice. 

ian948

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:05pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:05pm

Town hall - they are very helpful. Google maps will show you where - just off the square.

ian948

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:13pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:13pm

Only for the purpose of fun with Dario - :-)

"The first is the 90 days in any 180 day rule - that requires Residencia (at the moment ...) it is a misnomer that you can stay for as long as you like on an EU passport.  You can live and work in Spain for up to 90 days on an EU passport.  Any more than 90 days in any one 180 day period requires, as I say, Residencia."

Not correct - an EU citizen under EU law may stay 3 months without registration , if however they are "seeking" work they may stay 6 months without registration !

In addition the 90 days in 180 is a Schengen rule and does not apply ( yet ) to UK citizens who are still EU citizens , or to EU citizens at large. Schengen rules ONLY apply to non EU visitors .

Have a great day :-)

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:34pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:34pm

ian948 wrote on Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:13pm:

Only for the purpose of fun with Dario - :-)

"The first is the 90 days in any 180 day rule - that requires Residencia (at the moment ...) it is a misnomer that you can stay for as long as you like on an EU passport.  You can live and work in Spain for up to 90 days on an EU passport.  Any more than 90 days in any one 180 day pe...

...riod requires, as I say, Residencia."

Not correct - an EU citizen under EU law may stay 3 months without registration , if however they are "seeking" work they may stay 6 months without registration !

In addition the 90 days in 180 is a Schengen rule and does not apply ( yet ) to UK citizens who are still EU citizens , or to EU citizens at large. Schengen rules ONLY apply to non EU visitors .

Have a great day :-)

**cough** https://www.gov.uk/guidance/residency-requirements-in-spain#residency-requirements

Have an equally great day ;-D

Albert

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:39pm

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Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:39pm

Useful informative. My understanding is that as a UK visitor to Spain I can stay in one hit of 180 days max or numerous trips adding up to 180 days between Jan to Dec inclusive each year. 

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