NIE NEW REQUIREMENTS - Page 2

It really matters not whether you agree with me - a quick perusal of the legislative requirements laid out on the uk.gov website posted above will detail that.

Hi.  we have just gone through getting our S1 for Spanish health insurance as we now live here permanently.  When applying for the English forms from DHSS they sent a letter to ask us to send the EHIC 111 back.  We didn´t do this and will renew under Spanish terms when it expires.  Whatever you do, do not return your EHIC card.  The DHSS itself is giving out different information so be careful.  Good luck with everything else and welcome.

Stuart, Dario is absolutely correct. Check out the advice given, the UK government links, CAB Spain (on FB) etc. I have also posted on here about Residency, padron, health cover for retired people under the U.K. S1. I arrived here in late May and obtained Residency at the Almeria City offices in August 2018.

Yes, I know of people that drive a motor home around for 6 months here in the winter, they don’t need residency for that (as visitors) although legally they are overstayers if they are here more than 90 days. There are also quite a few Brits like the two you mention: ‘flying under the radar’ here in Spain, not getting their resident status legalised and keeping outside the Spanish tax system ... their risk! Huge fines and risk of deportation.

IF Brexit happens they will get a shock. And as the U.K. will then no longer be an EU member anyone seeking residency after 29 March 2019 will be required to show an income FOUR times the current requirement to obtain residency. 

It’s not just Brexit that matters. Schengen countries like France and Spain already record data from every person entering or leaving the Schengen zone. [yes, you can travel within it as no internal border controls but once you cross at the Channel or airports you are logged] So anyone overstaying - not registered as a resident - will face penalties and restrictions on their future ability to travel to Europe. After 2021 when ETIAS comes in that will be writ large! 

That is why if you live here you have to obtain residency and be tax resident too. Initially it’s temporary but after 5 years it automatically becomes permanent.

Hi, we are looking at going for residencia, plan to wait until the New Year for tax purposes but want to get in before Brexit...

Re health care, I know someone who got registered on the Spanish national system through his EHIC card alone, after assuring authorities that this would be temporary, not permanent. He was given one year's coverage. If you are applying for residencia, as Dario and everyone else have noted, you either need a year's private health care, coverage as a pensioner or through employment....

Hi Dario can i just run this by you we are moving out to Mojacar to take early retirement next year with my 22 year old son. We were going to rent whilst we found a property to buy. We were going to open a basic account with our passports for rental purposes etc and just to get started. To obtain residency i thought we did it at the local police station or am i wrong. What is Ayuntamiento? to get a padron i did not know we needed one of these from then we were going to show we had good amount of profit from our house to fund ourselves until we can claim after 4 years our private pensions then we have state pensions kicking in in 17 years.  Our son who we will live with us as a family has about the amount your saying each individual has to have in the bank you said an average ANNUAL balance does that mean the 9,750 euros is enough in the bank or is he supposed to show he will be getting that paid in each year. Is that enough for residency for him as he wont have a job so wont having more money paid into his account. But we would fund him anyway until hopefully he may find a job or if not we would still fund him. So we are looking into health care with sanitas or Asssa so was going to show we had that but i noticed someone said we needed 5,300 euros of ins is this correct. Sanitas offer a mas salud poicy which they say is enough for residency and Asssa offer a standard policy is this sufficient So do you think we would get residency particularly my son and could you  kindly answer the questions i asked along the way about things i was unsure of and tell me if what i thought we had to do is correct.

Thank you so  much .

I am sure that the learned Dario will give you a full explanation...., however, my novice understanding of Padron, as I have just obtained it from Turre town hall and the helpful Manuel, is that the Padron registers you with the council as another resident so that they can claim funds for services... I have no idea why Dario says that about Padron being just 1 month old to be better?

What I have learnt in my novice 3 weeks over here, is that there are an unlimited amount of so called...... experts.... on all things relating to this subject...!

Am off to open my non-residencia bank account tomorrow, with a passport and a Padron, and a rental agreement...!

The big question is of course when next year? Before or after March 29?  Any information I give will be pertinent to PRE Brexit only. After March 29, all bets are off, I have no idea how the process will change for UK Nationals, who are then no longer EU Citizens.  So, assuming Pre Brexit;

Some Police Stations can process Residencia applications; I live in Vera, and in and around this area, applications must be made in person to Oficina De Extranjeria in Almería.

The Ayuntamiento is the “Town Hall” and if you reside in Spain, you are obliged to register for a Certificado de Empadronamiento - the Padrón.  This is really a register of who lives in a particular district and is important for obtaining and improving municipal facilities.  It’s also necessary to register if you wish to vote.  Irrespective of whether you wish to vote, it is mandatory to register on the Padrón.

The balance in the bank account is a “snapshot” - the certificate produced by the bank will merely state that in financial year ‘n’ the average balance in the account was ‘x’ - it does not suggest, nor is it required to, that such balance is ongoing - it’s merely an annual average balance.  The only question I would pose, is if you open a bank account, put money in, then immediately request the Certificado Bancario Saldo Medio Anual, how can the bank certify that the average balance over the year was “x”?  Just a thought and perhaps one better posed to a Gestor or Asesoria

THAT will be the lifesaver for you though - to communicate with a Gestor or Asesoria when you arrive and pay them to do the application .... I guarantee it will be money well spent because they know the system inside out and can advise on what is needed, and when

Darío

Stuart - with regards the Padrón, if / when you apply for Residencia, you will require a Certificado that is as “fresh” as possible.  If the Certificado you present to the official in Almería is more than 3 months old, it will be rejected out of hand.  If you catch an official on the wrong day and your certificate is 2 - 3 months old, they may decide to reject application and direct you to get a new Padrón ... a 1 month old Padrón will not be rejected.

Thanks Dario you have been so helpful what is a Gester or Asesoria and the application is for what?

Also if you know a contact number for the above it would  be very much appreciated as I think would be a great idea.

Thanks again.

Thankyou so much for your help all advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks again.