REPORT ON THE WORKSHOPS AT THE BRITISH EMBASSY IN MADRID ON 19 SEPT 2019

Thank you once again Chris for the effort you put in to bring this to attention - i for one am deeply grateful that you make this effort as it allows me to plan accordingly

Thank you. Great info. Please keep the rest of us in the loop.

.Bob

Very good summary of the important points - funny how after 31/10 even if the UK have not Brexited new rules apply, maybe a legal challenge awaits that one....

i wonder how much enforcement the Spanish will apply to those people still here with no Residencia, similarly those who overstay the 90 days..... In the old days the regions didn't really bother whilst others, for example, Catalonia were mustard at enforcement.

Maybe Brits could apply for Political Asylum........ citing escaping mental toture at the hands of inept and self centred politicians (small p)

I think you have a good point there .... let’s face it, the country is somewhat divided, we have a Prime Minister who has apparently LIED to Her Majesty (oops!) and has not yet won one single vote in parliament since taking office .... he’s behaving more and more like a dictator, so yes .... I think your suggestion of political asylum fearing persecution by enraged Brexiteers bent on forcing their views on remainers has merit ..... :-D

Thank you so much for keeping us updated.

Hi Karen

I sent you a reply by email yesterday. Did you get it OK? Awaiting your reply.

Chris

Hi Chris,

Just found your message and replied. Sorry for the delay.

Karen

But .... important update on 23.9.19

“This morning, the government announced that in the case of no-deal, they will fund S1 healthcare for just 6 months.” - Guardian Press Report

So last week, on 19 Sept, just FOUR days ago, the British Embassy in Madrid confirmed to Brexpats in Spain representatives that S1 health cover would continue till the end of 2020. Now we are being told that has changed to the end of April 2020!

This U.K. government is an utter shambles, it has ceased to function effectively, it is utterly incapable of communicating consistently with U.K. citizens living in the EU.

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Health cover for retired Britons in EU to last six months in no-deal Brexit 

Government pledges £150m for those not covered by reciprocal arrangements if UK crashes out

Lisa O'Carroll Brexit correspondentPublished: Monday, 23 September 2019The government has pledged £150m to temporarily cover the healthcare costs of 180,000 British nationals living in the EU in the event of a no-deal Brexit.The health secretary, Matt Hancock, said workers posted to the bloc, plus pensioners and students, who can currently have their healthcare funded by the UK under existing reciprocal arrangements, would continue to be covered for six months after a crash out.The government will also pay the treatment costs of UK tourists if they began their holiday before the UK leaves the EU.


“Protecting the healthcare rights of UK nationals is a priority of this government,” said Hancock.

However, the move was met with anger by campaign groups. Sue Wilson, chair of Bremain in Spain, the country where the largest cohort of pensioners live, said: “They keep making these announcements and they seem to think they will provide reassurance. But they are time-limited and therefore have the opposite effect – people will ask what happens after six months.

“What we need is reassurance that our rights do not change regardless. That is what the leave campaign promised, that’s what Michael Gove promised and it’s clear every time they make one of these statements that is not the case.”

Jeremy Morgan, vice-chair of British in Europe, said the government’s plea to Britons to sort out healthcare if the NHS cover disappears was “another massive let down” for UK pensioners in the EU.

“The government is urging them to ‘act now to secure access to healthcare’ as if it were as simple as ordering coffee in a restaurant,” he said.

“People won’t get private health insurance if they have existing conditions, and in those countries where it is possible to join a national scheme the cost is simply unaffordable for someone living on the state pension – worth 20% less in euros as a result of Brexit”

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Earlier this year, the government pledged to cover the costs of healthcare for up to 12 months for all British citizens in the EU who had started treatment before exit day. The new pledge will extend healthcare costs for new conditions and treatments that begin afterwards.

An estimated 1 million Britons live in the EU, but the majority are earners and pay into EU member state health systems through tax or a combination of tax and insurance, so should remain covered in the event of no deal.

The government announcement covers Britons in the bloc who are retired, students, employees of UK companies or on holiday when Brexit happens.

We have been forgotten by Boris Johnson, say Britons in Europe

Visitors who fall ill or have accidents on holiday or on short stays in the EU are currently covered by the European health insurance card, but this will no longer be valid in a no-deal scenario.

Also invalidated by a crash out would be the S1 reciprocal healthcare scheme used by an estimated 180,000 pensioners who paid their taxes in the UK but decided to retire elsewhere in the bloc, apart from Ireland where existing arrangements would continue.

The offer by the government in March to cover costs for just one year for treatment agreed or started before exit day prompted fury, with some Britons in the EU questioning what would happen if they fell sick after the UK left the union.

One Briton, retired to France, claimed at the time it was discrimination. “Why should I be treated any differently from any other retired government servant living in the UK?”

Questions remain unanswered about what will happen in the longer term to those who opted to retire abroad in the knowledge that reciprocal arrangements applied throughout the EU as part of EU membership if there is no deal.

The government has proposed continuing the reciprocal arrangement until the end of December 2020 with all EU member states, but no bilateral deals can be signed until the outcome of Brexit negotiations is known

Smh / Face-palm - whichever emoji suits; you are right - the government is utterly shambolic and cannot deliver a clear message  .... I dare suggest that is because it itself has no idea what it is doing.  How can you deliver a clear message when you have yourself no idea what the message is?  If ever there was a time to install a new government, this would have to be it