Irish passport: rules for re-entry into Schengen zone

Derrymore wrote on Mon Sep 5, 2022 4:30pm:

Hi Ruchabo

As an Irish passport holder you can visit and/or work in any EU country for as long as you wish.  This also applies to countries such as Iceland, Norway, and Switzerland which have agreements with the EU.

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Almost all countries require you register for social welfare if you want to work and some countries make this a bureaucratic nightmare - it's to keep civil servants in cushy jobs! It's not personal. 

Good luck 

Ruchabo wrote on Mon Sep 5, 2022 10:08am:

Morning!

I'm an Irish passport holder. I have just been up in N Spain  (doing a number of Caminos de Santiago) and left Spain after being there for 85 days.

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I'm now back in the UK.

I need some advice ( Dario, I think I may be especially looking at you! Or Matthew, as an Irish citizen)

I want to travel back out v shortly to Roquetas for a long stay and am looking to check on the rules for travel to/ length of stay in Schengen as an EU ( but non Schengen ) citizen.

( I know if I had UK passport I'd have the rolling 180 day rule, thats all v clear and loads of Internet info on that).

My understanding ( but I have TRAWLED the Internet and can't find a source anywhere,)  is that an an Irish citizn I could have, for eg, left Spain on day 85, gone to eg Cyprus/ Croatia/ UK/ Ireland (all non Schengen)  for even just a day and returned and have stayed another 98 days ( taking me to 183, after which I'd become tax resident, which I don't want) 

I also know that I could have reg in Spain to stay, and in my case would have had to show adequate means to support myself inc sufficuent hand appropriate health insurance. But I'm interested in just knowing whether I could return for the 98 days without registration.

Does anyone know, and if so, please could you point me to the source where this is specifically stated? 

Many thanks.

Matthew wrote on Mon Sep 5, 2022 8:13pm:

Derrymore is right. The only comment I'd add is that if you spend more than 183 days in a calendar year (January - December) in Spain the Revenue authorities expect that you will pay income tax on your worldly income.

Airtaine wrote on Tue Sep 6, 2022 8:11am:

Yea but how do you determine if you have to pay tax? 

What is the income threshold if retired? 

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Sep 6, 2022 8:36am:

There is no threshold.  Once you are tax resident, you are required to declare worldwide income, as Spain taxes you on worldwide income.  You may not get taxed if total of worldwide income is not high, but you are required to still do an annual tax return and declare it.  If I reca...

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...ll the maximum amount you can bring in to the country tax free is 10.000 € per annum.

Spanish tax is horribly convoluted and certainly best left for professionals

Airtaine wrote on Tue Sep 6, 2022 8:56am:

Bugger,

 I was told that my income was below the tax requirement. This was by a  'professional' tax specialist in Xábia who said my anual income, which is taxed at source,  was to low to worry about.  Thus she said that 'I did not have to file in Spain'. 

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Will look into it further 

Thanks 

Shay123 wrote on Wed Sep 7, 2022 2:17pm:

Bear in mind that you can not be taxed twice in almost any country combination across the world that I know of? Certainly all European and 'Western' countries.

 If you have been taxed at source for work in one country, for instance you will not pay tax twice on that income.

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However, tax law in any country can get complicated very quickly and if your affairs are not simple, then this forum is not experienced or knowledgeable to give legal advice. I would suggest you contact a tax adviser of an English speaking country to give you the best advice on how to manage this?