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Some good old honest advice needed !

Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2019 5:34pm
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Hello, 

We are a family of three 47,41 with a six year old and 2 mad pointers looking to move over to Andalucia in the next year or so. We are coming over to stay in Torre Pacheco for a month in June to have a look around at different areas, have a look at some property in our budget and to get a general feel for things......

Main questions are schooling for our son, what are the options? 

Is a pool really necessary for the dream villa? 

We will have a budget of upto £250k/£290€ Plus tax to buy a place outright and enough for the move etc ? Will we get a “decent” 3 bed,2 bath with the pool in a nice area near all the usual, schools, town etc ? Or are we being unrealistic? 

The aim is to have up to a year off (I have put some money aside for this) 

I am in Commercial Refrigeration and Air conditioning, does anyone know of any people who would need a good fridge man ? 

Thanks ever so much in advance and any tips would be welcomed!!! 

Calvin

BobL

Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2019 8:28pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2019 8:28pm

HI,

Isn't Torre Pacheco in Murcia Province & nr Cartagena? Thought saw signage on way to old Murcia airport.

Saludos,

Bob and Sandra

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2019 8:37pm

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Posted: Mon Mar 4, 2019 8:37pm

Maybe?!! 

If it helps we are looking at all areas in the south east and this is where we are staying for a month. 

Mods, feel free to move this post if necessary 👍

BobL

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:16am

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:16am

Hi again,

Well, in our area you would certainly get something really super for that outlay but of course the nearer you get to the sea the more expensive property becomes. Pretty standard. Of course even some Coastal areas are more expensive than others.

We travel extensively and so for us a pool would be a definite no-no although one of our properties is an apt.on a complex & that has a Communal Pool. I see all the work & expense that go into friends' pools and shudder. Also unless you have heating then maybe May-September.

Business is business and if you get a positive reputation & advertise then people will use you.

You are looking at a huge area and so would suggest renting for a significant period. For myself I would favour a caravan & 4x4 for accommodation and mobility. We have a motor home but you need to be more mobile / access, etc.

No idea about schooling but friends have their children in Spanish schools.

Time to go,

Saludos,

Bob and Sandra

Mojacar Playa, Almeria, Puerto Lumbreras, Murcia,  UK, Fort Aguada, Goa & North Maclean,  Queensland.

Jack

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 4:37pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 4:37pm

Hi,

I think it very wise to have a good look around. It's such a large area with such diverse properties and lifestyle. It would be a wonderful life for you all, especially the little one. 

We have friends who moved here with their son here aged 9 and it was a little difficult for him at school. He went to the village school but I think there are private British schools, for me I think that's silly, children are like sponges and will pick the language up very quickly. Might be an idea to get you all lessons before you even get here.

A pool takes care and maintenance and has its pros and cons. If you bought beside the coast it might not be much of a necessity and most pueblos have a community pool that is open in the summer months.

As for work, I really can't say. We retired out here so didn't have to work. Some struggle some survive. Hopefully someone else can help you out with that.

Whatever you decide, don't rush into anything, DONT use professionals recommended by your estate agent. That normally never works out well.

All the very best you you and your family. 

Jack

( no need to list my properties, it's irrelevant )  

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BobL

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:07pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:07pm

Hi,

Oops, apologies for appearing pretentious, merely thought to explain our travelling life.

However, in fairness I didn't mention the caravan in Oz or the various vehicles or the 6 Kashmiri servants in India.

Again my sincere apologies,

Dr./ Colonel Bob and Sandra.

LOL. Bit like Rocket in GoG2!!!!!!!

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:24pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:24pm

I kind of got that 👍 

Just after some advice, I have Medland Spain all over me at the moment, are they just the Barratt of Spain? They are very eager meet up at the moment after one enquiry as we like the look of some of the new builds.....any advice on the new versus old question to Spanish property as they look ok, but ‘Er indoors will not live in Lego land! 

Again, thanks for the replies and keep the suggestions coming as they are all helping. We are in no rush and next year would work better for us financially. But, another year then another year.....and so it goes on and on. Too young and poor to retire so just looking for a better/different outlook to life!! 

Thanks 

BobL

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:48pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 6:48pm

Hi,

There has been an inordinate rush to get out here before 29/3, or now, to start the process within the Spanish window period. It is certainly looking more optimistic for us but still no-one really knows. It would appear, unless I'm wrong, that you are not on OAP pension so anyway would need Private Healthcare although if you work then you would pay into autonimo ( ?spelling) which is the Social Security system here. That entails Residencia & automatic State healthcare.

It becomes more & more difficult year on year & we look back on the simplicity of the system in 2002. The Spanish do love their bureaucracy, even worse than India.

We have one old, as in 170yr old, property, which has been virtually rebuilt, & one new apartment. The builds are totally different to UK and constantly need attention. During the building boom so many were just thrown up as they were often sold before the foundations were laid. Our apt.went on the market at 250,000€ & we purchased fully furnished for 91,000€'when the market collapsed. Properties near us at 500,000€ have gone for as little as 136,000€.

One hugely important item. An honest, totally professional Solicitor. Why do you think so many people purchased illegal properties? Because they were lied to by the very legal advisors they were paying to protect them.

Bit of a minefield out here and hence the need not to rush into a purchase.

Estate agents- same the whole world over. Remember in UK in 1988/9 voted the most loathed profession- & yet not a profession.

Best wishes,

Bob and Sandra 

OSSY

Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 7:18pm

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Posted: Tue Mar 5, 2019 7:18pm

7 CBD,

I answered someone else a while back, the property market is definately a "Buyers" market here especially now with a lot of Brits running scared, Medlandspain.co.uk is just another builder/developer eager to part you of your money, the money you spend with them will go twice as far only by moving inland 1 or 2 miles (you could still walk to the beach in 30 minutes) 

the following post is just to give you something else to think about.

Moving to Arboleas

Hope this helps

Regards

Ossy

GeckoGrafix 

Matthew

Posted: Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:43pm

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Posted: Wed Mar 6, 2019 12:43pm

Your main advantage if used properly is that you are not under pressure to move. Use your advantage. If Brexit occurs (and I reckon it won't) there will be some fallout somewhere, sometime. We don't know what this fallout will be, but if there's one thing the Spaniards do not wish to lose, it is the income from the English speaking peoples. Spaniards don't do stupid things. They learned hard lessons from a fleet they sent northwards a couple of hundred years ago most of which was broken up on rocks on the northern and west coast of Ireland with serious loss of life and face. 

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