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NannieH

Posted: Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:28pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:28pm

Stuart47 wrote on Wed Apr 7, 2021 8:38am:

This is very tragic, but also an extremely complex issue.

Asylum seeking used to be very rare, one would hear only of dissidents, spies and the likes seeking political asylum, in fact it would make headline news.

Now it is completely different. These poor souls who perished are said to be from Algeria; i didn't realise Algeria was an unsafe country.

Let's look at safe countries where people are travelling to, the EU, UK, America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Where else? This means the rest of the world is unsafe, how therefore can these few countries accommodate the remaining 6 billion people. If any of the safe countries interfere with the unsafe countries they are unwelcome and seen as oppressors themselves. It seems that spending billions in foreign aid is not working either. If people smuggling became an international capital crime it would be seen as barbaric.

So what is the answer and how has the world got into such a state?

The reasons always seem to be ....religeon, greed, and the theft of their lands.....just all so sad.

NannieH

Posted: Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:32pm

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Posted: Fri Apr 9, 2021 1:32pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Tue Apr 6, 2021 8:18pm:

these poor unfortunate people were making the journey from Algeria which they obviously did not think was a safe country.  They nearly made the beach at Mazaron but the boat capsized in the rough sea just off shore.  They may have been economic migrants but if life where you are is so p...

...oor who can blame them trying to get somewhere they thought they could improve their lives and those of their children.  Often they borrow the money for the journey and the debt is still owed by the family left behind.  They need to punish the traffickers severely to stop them.  

I would do anything to make what I thought was a better life for my children, even I suspect make this dangerous crossing if it was so very bad where we were....However if I was a young single male I would stay and fight for what I knew was mine and my fellow countryman's lands etc. I am glad I am not walking in their shoes, so don't have to make this terrible choice.

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Posted: Sun Apr 25, 2021 6:27pm

devo49 wrote on Sat Apr 3, 2021 10:53pm:

That is what I can’t understand . If they have the funds to pay the people smugglers how sad that if they are genuine refugees they can’t apply and come through the proper channels . People must be so desperate to risk their lives and the lives of their children . How lucky are we to be able ...

...to sit in our comfy homes and be able to comment . Remember the old saying “ their but for the grace of god goes us “ I’m not religious but I do remember my mom saying that phrase . 

I think you might find the payment is made as an IOU. Their families are guarantors and in effect it lasts forever. Money lenders hike the interest- there's no formal registration or regulation. They become pawns in money laundering and exploitation. Even dead- the debt will get collected.

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