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US Presidential Election

Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:29pm
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Looking at different reports of the recent television  Debate (Harris -V- Trump), it is clear that neither came out with anything that would emphatically decide the election result. However, the race to the Whitehouse will be a close run event. 

Joe Biden was a beaten candidate a few weeks ago, but Kamala Harris more than made up some lost ground since. But, some “Swing” states will decide who is going to be the next president of the United States. Harris hasn’t maintained her momentum, which is worrying.

Trump can’t stop lying, but for some reason this is not working against him.

The war in Ukraine (I think) will be where the election will be won. What will Trump do? Harris must inform the people what she will do. As I write it appears the war is going to be escalated.

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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:39pm

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Posted: Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:39pm

Matthew wrote on Fri Sep 13, 2024 10:29pm:

Looking at different reports of the recent television  Debate (Harris -V- Trump), it is clear that neither came out with anything that would emphatically decide the election result. However, the race to the Whitehouse will be a close run event. 

Joe Biden was a beaten candidate a few weeks ago, but Kamala Harris more than made up some lost ground since. But, some “Swing” states will decide who is going to be the next president of the United States. Harris hasn’t maintained her momentum, which is worrying.

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Trump can’t stop lying, but for some reason this is not working against him.

The war in Ukraine (I think) will be where the election will be won. What will Trump do? Harris must inform the people what she will do. As I write it appears the war is going to be escalated.

Think if Harris wins we will be looking at World War 3.

The predictions of a world War in 2025 seem to be coming true.

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:35am

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 8:35am

tony3121 wrote on Fri Sep 13, 2024 11:39pm:

Think if Harris wins we will be looking at World War 3.

The predictions of a world War in 2025 seem to be coming true.

Ok I have to ask why you think that if Harris wins we will all be putting our heads between our knees and kissing our arses goodbye?

Trump is the one who wants to be the dictator and wants to MAGA. He could so he could suspend congress and declare war on Mexico, Haiti or any country who disagrees with his insane rantings. He won't care what the world thinks of his actions.

The bigger concern is if Trump loses he could try to incite a Civil war  Which in the US at the moment is a distinct probability no matter who wins.Then we will have to worry about how the world reacts to that..

Russia could possibly escalate in the Ukraine thinking the US as weaken by the election outcome.  I think that they maybe are aware the war is a losing battle in the end.  

Putin will  rattle his sabers and see how the Chinese react.

China will be inscrutable as ever, maybe mobilize their armies just for the craic and scare the bejayzus out of everyone.

The EU will dither about seeing which way the wind will blow them.

Biden, at present, does not see Russia (Putin) as any threat  to the EU but he has the luxury of looking at that from over 4000 km away. The EU not so much it may not be brown trouser time but it will require close watching.

And as a side note I see that the Catholic Church is sticking its nose into this election more specifically the pope

''POPE FRANCIS HAS described the upcoming US election as a choice between “the lesser of two evils”

Yer man has certainly made the voting decision for Catholics without them deciding themselves. 

A good majority of Catholics are Republicans but may have been on the fence when it came to Trump now after this statement not so much

Francis said it is “ugly” to not vote and added that “one has to choose the lesser of two evils”.

While not naming either candidate, Francis told reporters that “they are both against life – the one who throws away migrants and the one who supports killing babies”.

“Who is the lesser evil? That lady or that gentleman? I don’t know. Everyone has to think and make this decision according to their conscience,” Francis said.

Trump while having nothing to do with the Roe v Wade overturn it was his appointed right wing top heavy Supreme Court cronies who did.

The popes statements will give a Trump a rather large advantage. 

Watch this space. 


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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:17am

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:17am

I was reluctant to start this topic, but I’m glad I did. Let’s correct a few things though

(I). The pope won’t have an enormous affect on the Catholic vote. Currently, many Catholics including me are at odds of lots of the happenings of the Vatican.

(ii)  The EU isn’t dithering about the war in Ukraine. Neither is the UK so prospects of WW3 are pretty low, but still there. 

(iii) Harris is good at wooing the American public, but she lacks a certain je ne sais quoi. It’ll be interesting to watch her tactics from now bearing in mind how close the issue is.

(iv) Let’s give the UK credit here too where it will not allow WW3.

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:49am

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:49am

Matthew wrote on Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:17am:

I was reluctant to start this topic, but I’m glad I did. Let’s correct a few things though

(I). The pope won’t have an enormous affect on the Catholic vote. Currently, many Catholics including me are at odds of lots of the happenings of the Vatican.

(ii)  The EU isn’t dithering about the war in Ukraine. Neither is the UK so prospects of WW3 are pretty low, but still there. 

(iii) Harris is good at wooing the American public, but she lacks a certain je ne sais quoi. It’ll be interesting to watch her tactics from now bearing in mind how close the issue is.

(iv) Let’s give the UK credit here too where it will not allow WW3.

Far be it for me to disagree with you Mathew but your an Irish Catholic who can think for himself and possibly like myself have a HUGH bone to pick with the church.  American Catholics will, a majority of the time anyway, follow the churches advise. Remember Catholic = Republican

I did not mean that the EU was dithering about the war in the Ukraine. I was referring to how they will deal with the elections outcome. 

Yes Harris I agree is lacking in something alright a certain gravitas maybe

The UK object yes....do nothing

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:25am

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:25am

Matthew wrote on Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:17am:

I was reluctant to start this topic, but I’m glad I did. Let’s correct a few things though

(I). The pope won’t have an enormous affect on the Catholic vote. Currently, many Catholics including me are at odds of lots of the happenings of the Vatican.

(ii)  The EU isn’t dithering about the war in Ukraine. Neither is the UK so prospects of WW3 are pretty low, but still there. 

(iii) Harris is good at wooing the American public, but she lacks a certain je ne sais quoi. It’ll be interesting to watch her tactics from now bearing in mind how close the issue is.

(iv) Let’s give the UK credit here too where it will not allow WW3.

You say the UK will not allow WW3? the UK may have no say as we all know its a Proxy War being fought by the US and NATO and they will allow the fight to go on untill the last Ukrainian dies. But Russia could call there bluff and then its too late.

Obviously you will have the heads in the sand people who only believe what the media say.as at the beginning when I told people NATO and US were involved they said I'm wrong yet here we are and its open that they were involved all the time.

And no im not supporting Russia or Ukraine as they are both as bad as each other.

But at least it keeps everyone's eyes away from the slaughter of Children and ethnic cleansing which Israel are putting upon Gaza.

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:25pm

tony3121 wrote on Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:25am:

You say the UK will not allow WW3? the UK may have no say as we all know its a Proxy War being fought by the US and NATO and they will allow the fight to go on untill the last Ukrainian dies. But Russia could call there bluff and then its too late.

Obviously you will have the heads in the sand people who only believe what the media say.as at the beginning when I told people NATO and US were involved they said I'm wrong yet here we are and its open that they were involved all the time....

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And no im not supporting Russia or Ukraine as they are both as bad as each other.

But at least it keeps everyone's eyes away from the slaughter of Children and ethnic cleansing which Israel are putting upon Gaza.

“ … as we all know its a Proxy War being fought by the US and NATO and they will allow the fight to go on untill the last Ukrainian dies

This is nothing more than a trope with no substance or basis in fact.  “As we all know” translates to “in my opinion”. [edited to remove “Right Wing” describing the trope, as Chrisso points out it is in fact used by extreme left.]

With regards the conflict, two very important things to remember.  The Russians, whilst definitely having desires to grab land, are also an eminently practical people, and a leader that overreaches, or risks the utter destruction of Russia by reaching for the nuclear button may well find himself taken very sick, with the introduction of Polonium into his system.  Whilst it appears the West is weakened, as soon as it becomes likely that Russia will suffer as a result, there will be a “leadership change”, and a subtle, slow de-escalation in the conflict.  In true Russian manner we will not know about Putin’s “replacement” until a good 12 months or so after it’s happened.  Look for a change in Russian tactics in Ukraine and less actual sightings of Putin (actual, as opposed to reported by TASS)

The Chinese.  The Chinese never, ever act rashly. Provocatively yes, but not rashly.  The Chinese play the long game, and will plan for 100 years hence.  At the moment they are in the process of taking over the world financially and by trade.  That won’t happen this year or even this decade - but that’s not the timeframe the Chinese plan for and they will not support anything that threatens their plans for global financial domination.

Trump.  He’s a worry indeed, but there are now Republicans starting to turn against him.  His unhinged rant about illegal Haitians eating family pets in Springfield, Ohio gave those with more than a couple of brain cells a REAL look at the deteriorating mental state of Trump.  Interestingly enough Murdoch has thrown his support behind Harris and he generally likes to be on the winning side.  

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:47pm

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:47pm

I was recently taken to task by the almighty bore known as DARIO for daring to post about a subject not directly related to Almeria but here he is again (amongst others) giving us all his opinions about the upcoming U. S. election. I will ask the question that was asked of me.  What has this to do with Almeria?  Matthew is as bad for broaching the “irrelevant to Almeria” subject or is it one rule for one and one rule for the rest of us?  

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:43pm

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Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:43pm

Aggis wrote on Sat Sep 14, 2024 10:47pm:

I was recently taken to task by the almighty bore known as DARIO for daring to post about a subject not directly related to Almeria but here he is again (amongst others) giving us all his opinions about the upcoming U. S. election. I will ask the question that was asked of me.  What has this...

... to do with Almeria?  Matthew is as bad for broaching the “irrelevant to Almeria” subject or is it one rule for one and one rule for the rest of us?  

I don't respond to him as he is a troll, no one can have a opinion unless he agrees. 

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Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 12:03am

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tony3121 wrote on Sat Sep 14, 2024 11:43pm:

I don't respond to him as he is a troll, no one can have a opinion unless he agrees. 

BWAAAAAAHAHA …. Translation “I can’t actually support the statement I made, so I’ll just be a snowflake and gaslight the person who disagreed with it instead

Dearie me - this is the greatest demonstration of YOU being upset that people don’t agree with your opinion there is!!  If Matthew and Airtaine dare disagree openly, you’ll jump on them as well?

I couldn’t give a cr*p really what your beliefs are - but post something publicly, making it out to be a fact, then don’t cry if someone challenges it.

And Aggis - please stop sniveling - it wasn’t just me that pulled you up - but you pressed on asserting your right to do so and so you then received a variety of responses from different people that highlighted the inaccuracy of your original statement … again, not just me … are you going to jump on everyone that dared disagree with you? or do you think “ganging up” with others against one particular person is going to accomplish anything?

I can assure you, it won’t.

As to the US Election … the outcome of that will likely have more of an affect on us here in Europe than will the modification of a benefit no one living in Spain gets anyway.

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