The Impact of El Hombre Naranja on the EU and ultimately Spain?

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 9:41am

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And so it is beginning, one of the headlines I saw today

EU steps up Spanish olives spat with US

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The European Union has requested authorization from the World Trade Organization (WTO) to impose counter-measures worth $35 million annually on U.S. imports. This follows the U.S.'s imposition of duties on Spanish ripe olives in 2018, which were deemed inconsistent with WTO rules. The EU seeks compensation for the U.S.'s failure to comply with a WTO ruling against these tariffs. A WTO arbitrator will now determine the appropriate level of counter-measures. The tariffs, imposed during Donald Trump's presidency, alleged that Spanish olives were unfairly subsidized and sold below market value.

While this is older news another headline I read today

Trump threatens to impose sweeping new tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China

US PRESIDENT-ELECT Donald Trump is threatening to impose sweeping new tariffs on Mexico, Canada and China as soon as he takes office as part of his efforts to crack down on illegal immigration and drugs.

The tariffs, if implemented, could dramatically raise prices on everything from gas to automobiles.

He posted on his social media platform (sic) '.. the new tariffs would remain in place until such time as Drugs, in particular, Fentanyl, and all Illegal Aliens stop this Invasion of our Country!

Trump’s nominee for treasury secretary, Scott Bessent, if confirmed, supports using tariffs as a negotiation tool for advancing U.S. foreign policy goals. In a recent Fox News op-ed, he argued that tariffs can encourage allies to increase defense spending, open markets to U.S. exports, combat illegal immigration and fentanyl trafficking, and deter military aggression. If confirmed, Bessent would help oversee tariff policies.

Now I know that the rise in prices referred in the article are in reference to what will happen in the US, my question is how do you think his increasing tariffs could impact the EU and Spain?

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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:29pm

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Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:29pm

I'd like to think that Spain, being part of the EU, a very significant trading bloc, will to a large extent be insulated from the Orange ones insanity.

He's surrounding himself with huegely under-qualified Yes men and women (unless you call a host of Fox and friends "qualified" for SecDef ...), so it remains to be seen how the Senate and Congress stand up to him - are there enough deranged Maga's in the Senate to enforce his will?

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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:00am

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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:00am

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:29pm:
I'd like to think that Spain, being part of the EU, a very significant trading bloc, will to a large extent be insulated from the Orange ones insanity.
He's surrounding himself with huegely under-qualified Yes men and women (unless you call a host of Fox and friends "qualified" for SecDef ...), so it remains to be seen how the Senate and Congress stand up to him - are there enough deranged Maga's in the Senate to enforce his will?...

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I would be very surprised that if he implements his threats on trade tariffs, it does not affect the EU.

El Hombre Naranja has promised to slap tariffs on every single European good entering the U.S.

''Goldman Sachs analysts indicated that the euro might decline by up to 10% against the dollar if the new administration implements its comprehensive tariff plan. Additionally, earnings for some of Europe's largest companies could decrease by over 5% in the coming year.The victory is set to have a significant impact on all aspects of EU policy, including drug pricing, green technologies, and artificial intelligence standards.''

Regarding his nominees, there is a rather lengthy explanation of the process that his appointees have to face. This article by NPR, IMHO, a rather unbiased news source, does a good job of explaining what needs to be done and the hurdles, if any, that his selections have to go through. I have inserted a link to an article to make this post text heavy, article here.

Following on from that, as you may know his nomination for Attorney General, Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, has withdrawn due to allegations of Sexual misconduct and illicit drug use. Which is ironic seeing as the orange one is a convicted felon.

Another article of interest is this one On the First Charges to Drop Against Former President Donald Trump

The thinking behind it is that bringing criminal charges against a sitting president would be unconstitutional, as it would impede the chief executive’s capacity to effectively lead the country.

They may have been dismissed, but the wording of the dismal allows for future examination of the charges, and he could be brought to task again unless, and here's the biggie 'legal experts say any incoming attorney general – who would be nominated by Trump himself – could order “dismissal with prejudice” essentially disallowing any further prosecutions after Trump completes his term as president'.

Sorry to all of you that hate reading lengthy news pieces, but I like to read as much as I can before I formulate any opinions on a subject.

With regard to my question, the impact of his reelection on Spain and the EU.As the fallout is still settling, a lot of the writing is on the wall. He wants to Make America Great Again and if he has to he will become the autocratic leader of the US and bugger the rest of the world.

All I know is that I am happy I don't live in the US and really feel a deep felt sorrow for any women living there and are facing the prospect of 4 years of the type of government he is ushering in.

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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:24am

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Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:24am

Airtaine wrote on Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:00am:
I would be very surprised that if he implements his threats on trade tariffs, it does not affect the EU.
El Hombre Naranja has promised to slap tariffs on every single European good entering the U.S.

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''Goldman Sachs analysts indicated that the euro might decline by up to 10% against the dollar if the new administration implements its comprehensive tariff plan. Additionally, earnings for some of Europe's largest companies could decrease by over 5% in the coming year.The victory is set to have a significant impact on all aspects of EU policy, including drug pricing, green technologies, and artificial intelligence standards.''
Regarding his nominees, there is a rather lengthy explanation of the process that his appointees have to face. This article by NPR, IMHO, a rather unbiased news source, does a good job of explaining what needs to be done and the hurdles, if any, that his selections have to go through. I have inserted a link to an article to make this post text heavy, article here.
Following on from that, as you may know his nomination for Attorney General, Florida GOP Rep. Matt Gaetz, has withdrawn due to allegations of Sexual misconduct and illicit drug use. Which is ironic seeing as the orange one is a convicted felon.
Another article of interest is this one On the First Charges to Drop Against Former President Donald Trump
The thinking behind it is that bringing criminal charges against a sitting president would be unconstitutional, as it would impede the chief executive’s capacity to effectively lead the country.
They may have been dismissed, but the wording of the dismal allows for future examination of the charges, and he could be brought to task again unless, and here's the biggie 'legal experts say any incoming attorney general – who would be nominated by Trump himself – could order “dismissal with prejudice” essentially disallowing any further prosecutions after Trump completes his term as president'.
Sorry to all of you that hate reading lengthy news pieces, but I like to read as much as I can before I formulate any opinions on a subject.
With regard to my question, the impact of his reelection on Spain and the EU.As the fallout is still settling, a lot of the writing is on the wall. He wants to Make America Great Again and if he has to he will become the autocratic leader of the US and bugger the rest of the world.
All I know is that I am happy I don't live in the US and really feel a deep felt sorrow for any women living there and are facing the prospect of 4 years of the type of government he is ushering in.

Trump admires dictators, he is not shy about coming forward with that and he sees himself as a dictator ... but listening to his rambling incoherent semi-literate "speeches" I question whether he truly has the brains to do it. He is a narcissist, for sure, and cannot conceive of himself ever being wrong.

It’s sad that he manages to suck so many others around the world into his delusions ... time will show that he is a delusional nutbag and will do the exact opposite of "Making America Great Again", it's sad that so many there - especially women and LGBTQI+ community will suffer

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Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:35pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:24am:
Trump admires dictators, he is not shy about coming forward with that and he sees himself as a dictator ... but listening to his rambling incoherent semi-literate "speeches" I question whether he truly has the brains to do it. He is a narcissist, for sure, and cannot conceive of himself eve...

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It’s sad that he manages to suck so many others around the world into his delusions ... time will show that he is a delusional nutbag and will do the exact opposite of "Making America Great Again", it's sad that so many there - especially women and LGBTQI+ community will suffer

It's the justice system there which bugs me almost as much as Trump. He was quite right about getting away with murder and people still would give him their vote. The judges there too let him get away with all the charges against him which will end up being binned as soon as he becomes president.

The judicial system in Spain is ultra right wing too and appears to be determined to get rid of a government which has done a lot to strengthen Spain's position in the EU.

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Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2024 8:16pm

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:29pm:
I'd like to think that Spain, being part of the EU, a very significant trading bloc, will to a large extent be insulated from the Orange ones insanity.
He's surrounding himself with huegely under-qualified Yes men and women (unless you call a host of Fox and friends "qualified" for SecDef ...), so it remains to be seen how the Senate and Congress stand up to him - are there enough deranged Maga's in the Senate to enforce his will?...

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Better keep your powder dry until Trump's appointees actually get in the saddle. Milei was similarly questioned 12 months back, now he seems to have worked a miracle in Argentina and his critics are speechless.

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Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:47am

DarioMartin wrote on Tue Nov 26, 2024 8:29pm:
I'd like to think that Spain, being part of the EU, a very significant trading bloc, will to a large extent be insulated from the Orange ones insanity.
He's surrounding himself with huegely under-qualified Yes men and women (unless you call a host of Fox and friends "qualified" for SecDef ...), so it remains to be seen how the Senate and Congress stand up to him - are there enough deranged Maga's in the Senate to enforce his will?...

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Actually, I would consider someone who is a graduate of both Princeton and Harvard and who served with distinction in Iraq and Afghanistan as more qualified for the role of US Defence Secretary than many previous holders of this position.

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Posted: Mon Dec 2, 2024 11:03am

maranga wrote on Mon Dec 2, 2024 9:47am:
Actually, I would consider someone who is a graduate of both Princeton and Harvard and who served with distinction in Iraq and Afghanistan as more qualified for the role of US Defence Secretary than many previous holders of this position.
Replies never read. Why bother when one is never wrong? :)

You'd think wouldn't you? Except that those with true experience disagree with you. A previous Secretary of Defence has said "Without a doubt, Hegseth has the least experience.", so there's that.

There is of course his absolute and utter loyalty to Trump which trumps *cough* duty to his country in his book, and he has been branded by former U.S. Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus as likely weaken the military - now you'd think there´s a man who knows a thing or two.

Of course, no trump pick could be complete without a healthy dose of sleaze; and his OWN MOTHER has called him an "abuser of women" - probably why he identifies with and sucks up to trump.

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Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 10:47am

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Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 10:47am

Raising tariffs is the same as raising taxes. Ultimately it harms economic growth. It’s what the UK is heading towards wthe ideology, tax and spend of the new Labour government.

I suspect Trump is using tariffs threats as a bargaining tool. There maybe some increases but not as big as the initial threats.

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Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 11:14am

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Posted: Fri Dec 6, 2024 11:14am

AndrewS wrote on Fri Dec 6, 2024 10:47am:
Raising tariffs is the same as raising taxes. Ultimately it harms economic growth. It’s what the UK is heading towards wthe ideology, tax and spend of the new Labour government.
I suspect Trump is using tariffs threats as a bargaining tool. There maybe some increases but not as big as the initial threats....

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Let's hope your right it's only a threat. But feck knows what the orange one will do and feck is not saying much