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FIFA World Cup Finals in Qatar - Thoughts & Chat

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2022 11:12pm
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World Cup 2022 has started with more talk about non sport items than sport items. I suppose it is a bit much to think that sport and politics could be seperated, but  where there is sport, there is controversy and the sport takes a back seat.  But, great that it all has started. Talk of captains' armbands, taking the knee, LGBTQS issues, deaths during construction, Qatar's human rights issues, anything but football. Great to see Germany have to compete in the next two rounds; wonderful to see Canada threatening Belgium; nice to see Argentina beaten by Saudi Arabia. England look good. Wales are boxing above their weight. African nations excelling too. 

. . . . and most of all distraction from the dreaded ongoing mundane facts and figures of the world. Nice to see more female officials than in previous World Cups. 

Pundits:- Graeme Souness appears bland as ever.

ITV Commentaries:- Bland as Souness. 

BBC Commentaries and Pundits:- Haven't seen or listened to yet but couldn't possibly be as bad as ITV.

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:31pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:31pm

You failed to mention Spain getting 7 - 0 šŸ˜

Yes, yes there is a lot of controversy. Iran showed England up by refusing to sing their National Anthem, whilst England buckled and didnā€™t wear the armband.  Weak. Piss weak.  Qatar has gone back on heir agreement to allow alcohol in the stands ā€¦ obviously been taking lessons from someone as to how to back out of international agreements.

But it just goes to show how corrupt FIFA is - Qatar should never ever have got the World Cup. Itā€™s turned it into a farce. As for ā€œitā€™s coming homeā€? 

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:32am

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 10:32am

Many posters here will probably agree that the World Cup Finals should never have been awarded to Quatar, but for spurious reasons Quatar got the finals. That's where the biggest mistake was made by FIFA. Every group feels that it has a right to protest especially that the finals have stgarted. But, Quatar itself has been given a platform to advertise itself and its morals. Obviously, Qatar is not doing a good job at this. The government spokesman from Quatar who went on world television and when asked about the laws in the country had no hesitation in saying something like You're in Qatar and subject to its laws. This was before the drinking of alcohol in the stands became an issue. The thousands of workers who lost their lives during the building of the various needed structures for the finals were effectively cast aside as cannon fodder. The LGBTQS people won't remain silent and continue to protest. Other Human Rights protesters throw in their tuppence worth too. 

Today we have Wales fighting for its life in the competition. England can guarantee qualification from their group today. Injury time can be any thing up to ten minutes (even more). There are female officials doing their jobs openly. New football passions have been unleashed with many players competing (rather than being passengers). The Ronaldo issue won't go away. 

All-in-all we have a competition that is excellent from a sports view. Television pundits are not being muzzled as far as I can see. This day next week some teams will be thinking of returning home and then there are the knockout stages. There's a chance that this World Cup Finals will be mainly remembered for the right reasons yet.

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:42pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:42pm

So now alcohol can be sold inside football stadiums in Qatar.

Not only that people can bring the LGBTQ rainbow flag into the stadiums too. 

I'm just wondering will England do Wales any favour?

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:07pm

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Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2022 8:07pm

I'm refusing to watch this corrupt competition. I might cave in the unlikely event get to the final.

Roll on Boxing day and I can watch the lads kick some Leicester arse HOWAY THE LADS!

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52pm

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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 1:52pm

Matthew wrote on Fri Nov 25, 2022 2:42pm:

So now alcohol can be sold inside football stadiums in Qatar.

Not only that people can bring the LGBTQ rainbow flag into the stadiums too. 

I'm just wondering will England do Wales any favour?

Yesterdays itv coverage had three lasses talking about pre match . 2 ex players but where was an ex older manager or more experienced male player . The world has gone inclusive mad . Wonder how the protesters that climb on our motorway bridgesand disrupt normal peoples lives and risk peoples lives been caught in huge motorway jams would fare in Quatar . Sport , money and politics will always  be entwined. 

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:40pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:40pm

As someone who cannot stand football i appreciate that I'm in the minority.  However i cannot understand why we have to have almost 1hr of preamble and then too much time disecting the match afterwards.  Once its over its over, end of!  Programmes which have been affected by late or non starts at all could be brought forward.  And even half hour programmes put on before the match instead of all the hype.  I thank heaven its only once every 4 years.  Also why can't one of the "outside" channels be dedicated instead of the main ones?  

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 8:56pm

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Lyn77 wrote on Mon Nov 28, 2022 7:40pm:

As someone who cannot stand football i appreciate that I'm in the minority.  However i cannot understand why we have to have almost 1hr of preamble and then too much time disecting the match afterwards.  Once its over its over, end of!  Programmes which have been affected by late o...

...r non starts at all could be brought forward.  And even half hour programmes put on before the match instead of all the hype.  I thank heaven its only once every 4 years.  Also why can't one of the "outside" channels be dedicated instead of the main ones?  

Hi Lyn, I'm not a great football fan, but every four years I concentrate whatever football knowledge I know around the World Cup Finals. Unfortunately, for me I support Rep of Ireland and it isn't every WC Finals we qualify. But, I enjoy the competition, television pundits, the fa ns, the sport. I don't think moving tv coverage to lesser channels will happen. There is so much hype. 

For the record I hope Wales qualify for the next round. I know at this stage this is nearly impossible, but football is a funny ol' game. My Brit neighbours in Mojacar are into England bigtime and most can't see how they will be beaten. Many of the pundits want Foden chosen to play. But Garret Southgate knows what he is doing and is an admirable coach. His interviews are good and supply little or no information for the viewer, but still he gives a good impression of himself. 

In a few days half the teams will be eliminated. Then the real competition starts. Bring it on!

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:47pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:47pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Nov 24, 2022 11:31pm:

You failed to mention Spain getting 7 - 0 šŸ˜

Yes, yes there is a lot of controversy. Iran showed England up by refusing to sing their National Anthem, whilst England buckled and didnā€™t wear the armband.  Weak. Piss weak.  Qatar has gone back on heir agreement to allow alcohol in the stands ā€¦ obviously been taking lessons from ...

...someone as to how to back out of international agreements.

But it just goes to show how corrupt FIFA is - Qatar should never ever have got the World Cup. Itā€™s turned it into a farce. As for ā€œitā€™s coming homeā€? 

Dream on šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£

yet another anti Brit statement from DM,did Germany wear the armbnd /did any other country wear the armband? DID Spain wear the armband,as for not honouring agreements ask Spain about Gibraltar

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:00pm

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Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2022 11:00pm

As for the OPs post, no I am not watching this world cup unless there is a miracle,it makes you wonder how much was in the 'brown envelopes'(remind you of Spain DM)to give Qatar which is a strict muslim country this event.they have been known for many years for poor conditions for migrant workers and not just in construction

I have nothing against Muslims BUT when you give a sporting event which by nature is followed by alcohol drinkers and main sponsor beggars belief,

The LGBQT+ and then plus some more? well sorry but you can protest as much as you like but qatar will not change,which is strange as a good many arab doent care wether they use a male or female for sex(or camel)!!!

Like everything in the world MONEY talks especially in sport,and yes Matty look at the ammount of arab money in horse racing

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