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psy1967

Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57pm

psy1967

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Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:13pm:

Ummmmmm ..... that doesn’t actually make sense? 🤔 

Whoopydo opined that 70% of the worst affected were overweight ..... that means 30% weren’t .... offering figures for the percentage of population that is overweight doesn’t suddenly mean that that figure is reversed ... even if at the lower end of the scale, we accept that 72% of over 45s ar...

...e overweight, that doesn’t somehow mean the statement that 70% of the worst affected are overweight means more non-overweight people are affected ..... it means simply, as it states, that a larger percentage of overweight people as compared to non-overweight are more severely affected ...  

It is not affecting overweight people more, it is just that there are more overweight people in the first place.

If 70% of affected people are overweight while 72% of the underlying population are overweight, then proportionately slightly more non-overweight people are being affected (for the sake of this discussion I am not challenging the underlying 70% assumption).  

Take a population of 1000 people, 720 of whom are overweight and 280 are not.  Assume you have 100 people in this population who are ill, 70 of them are overweight and 30 are not.  That means 70 out of 720 (9.7%) overweight people are ill, while 30 out of 280 (10.7%) non-overweight people are ill.  

It is therefore not correct to say that "a larger percentage of overweight people as compared to non-overweight are more severely affected", it is better to say that about 70% of people in the UK are overweight, and coronavirus doesn't seem to care much about the bmi of who it affects.    If the figures were more extreme, if say 90% of the population of the UK were overweight, then if only 70% of coronavirus sufferers were overweight that would be very bad news indeed for the non-overweight population.   

Atallatall

Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:51pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:51pm

My 28 year old Personal trainer grandson got it.H is white,slim and no health issues.It scared him as to its intensity.He stayed in his bedroom, and thought he was better,but about two weeks later,he got it again,not as intense and not as scary.

Please wear face masks in public and safe distance.It does work.

AndrewLaEnvia

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:51am

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:51am

Atallatall wrote on Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:18am:

I am in the UK and my grandson who is a personal trainer has had it twice.He is superfit but said it really knocked him off his feet.However he is now recovering and  self isolating at home.Dont become complacent if you have had it once and think you are ok.When racehorses are travelledby pl...

...ane,they have a bit of Vick or Vaseline rubbed up their noses.This is to help trap any viruses,and the Vick is wiped out later.It may help you.

This isn’t the reason for using on travelling or non travelling horses so please don’t use this as a safeguard for trapping viruses.  

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Geordie59

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39am

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Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 10:39am

stewart mac 1v wrote on Mon Mar 23, 2020 10:17pm:

Dont think It's been said yet,But If I survived the virus [not that I've had It...] Can you get It a second time eg : Is my body now immune to It.? As there Is no vacine yet I'm assuming I could.

Hi according to our newspapers yes you can catch it again and no  there is no immunity from covid 19 I'm not a medical person but that's what we've  been told you could try looking on our uk government website  check it out kind regards Sharon. 

Ian 77

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:08am

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 11:08am

Imo many people have had the virus without knowing it, my friend had severe stomach pains the runs and bad muscle pains no tempture but he had the virus , like anything it affects everyone different before I left spain in March I had sore eyes muscle pains but no tempture .. everyone’s body reacts different like penacillin not everyone can take that .. if they do ( like my wife get really ill)some get the flu a lot worse than others .. all anyone can do is be sensible a vaccine might not be found and if it is it will come with side effects and some might not be able to take it ...

juanida

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:28pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:28pm

psy1967 wrote on Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:57pm:

It is not affecting overweight people more, it is just that there are more overweight people in the first place.

If 70% of affected people are overweight while 72% of the underlying population are overweight, then proportionately slightly more non-overweight people are being affected (for the sake of this discussion I am not challenging the underlying 70% assumption).  ...

...

Take a population of 1000 people, 720 of whom are overweight and 280 are not.  Assume you have 100 people in this population who are ill, 70 of them are overweight and 30 are not.  That means 70 out of 720 (9.7%) overweight people are ill, while 30 out of 280 (10.7%) non-overweight people are ill.  

It is therefore not correct to say that "a larger percentage of overweight people as compared to non-overweight are more severely affected", it is better to say that about 70% of people in the UK are overweight, and coronavirus doesn't seem to care much about the bmi of who it affects.    If the figures were more extreme, if say 90% of the population of the UK were overweight, then if only 70% of coronavirus sufferers were overweight that would be very bad news indeed for the non-overweight population.   

Of course you have a greater possibility of dying or being very ill with lasting damage if you are greatly overweight as Covid attacks the lungs and logically this is worse for the obese than the for the slim.

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