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Jenni

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:08pm

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Shay123 wrote on Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:40am:

Thanks for the adjustment in numbers! Perhaps your anger got the better of your comma sense? :) not that I am a stickler for punctuation, I abuse it enough myself :)

There is no point in getting upset about migration, it has happened since, forever and EVERY government since has said yes it will control it and then finds it needs cheap labour and imports it....

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The consequence of this is frustration that there are a lot of 'foreigners' in the UK but if you look at the historic migrations into the UK, hundreds of thousands have come over the last couple of hundred years and are now integrated and think of themselves as British. This is borne out by black conservative MPs, The average DNA content of the UK is only 36% 'British' according to the latest studies and a personal survey I did when I was working in science in very English Oxford. 78% of the scientists had moved from north of the Mersey / Humber divide or abroad, including myself. We all moved for job opportunities?

Until we deal with war and poverty abroad (and stop having to rescue people who worked for western military and economic aims) and stop using cheap migrant labour to fuel greedy, excessive capitalism the migrant problem will not go away?

Furthermore, it then fuels irrational scrapping of 'foreign' laws like improved road safety standards and financial regulation to protect our savings and clean beaches and ...and ... - that prompted this theme.

Nothing is  perfect but the EU is seen as a model to work towards by other nations collaborating together, particularly in Asia, where ten nations of wildly contrasting faiths and culture are working together economically. As they will discover, putting faith and culture to one side, to collaborate and build will allow even greater growth, stability and population movement. And where is the economic power of Britain compared with SE Asia, the former sinking, having as SonderB said, sold its manufacturing base and the latter getting stronger?

Am I knocking the UK? No. There are good people there but ask anyone outside the UK and they shake their heads in disbelief. I am knocking the people who can only think negatively and they are thinking only of themselves and their financial backers. The road crash that was Brexit will be made worse if the laws are scrapped. It would be much easier and more plausible if Smug-Rees and the ERM picked out some specific laws for scrapping, like metrication and then we would think it was progressive, rather than through their hatred?

 

I thought this thread had been put to bed. Do we really need another lecture from you, saying the same thing but in a different way.  You sure like the sound of your own voice. have a nice day.

DarioMartin

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:14pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:14pm

Jenni wrote on Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:08pm:

I thought this thread had been put to bed. Do we really need another lecture from you, saying the same thing but in a different way.  You sure like the sound of your own voice. have a nice day.

At the bottom Jenni, is a link saying "Turn off email notifications for this topic".  Might I suggest you click that?  Then you will no longer be troubled by those that wish to continue a discussion in which you have no interest.

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:34pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:34pm

Shay123 wrote on Fri Feb 17, 2023 11:40am:

Thanks for the adjustment in numbers! Perhaps your anger got the better of your comma sense? :) not that I am a stickler for punctuation, I abuse it enough myself :)

There is no point in getting upset about migration, it has happened since, forever and EVERY government since has said yes it will control it and then finds it needs cheap labour and imports it....

...

The consequence of this is frustration that there are a lot of 'foreigners' in the UK but if you look at the historic migrations into the UK, hundreds of thousands have come over the last couple of hundred years and are now integrated and think of themselves as British. This is borne out by black conservative MPs, The average DNA content of the UK is only 36% 'British' according to the latest studies and a personal survey I did when I was working in science in very English Oxford. 78% of the scientists had moved from north of the Mersey / Humber divide or abroad, including myself. We all moved for job opportunities?

Until we deal with war and poverty abroad (and stop having to rescue people who worked for western military and economic aims) and stop using cheap migrant labour to fuel greedy, excessive capitalism the migrant problem will not go away?

Furthermore, it then fuels irrational scrapping of 'foreign' laws like improved road safety standards and financial regulation to protect our savings and clean beaches and ...and ... - that prompted this theme.

Nothing is  perfect but the EU is seen as a model to work towards by other nations collaborating together, particularly in Asia, where ten nations of wildly contrasting faiths and culture are working together economically. As they will discover, putting faith and culture to one side, to collaborate and build will allow even greater growth, stability and population movement. And where is the economic power of Britain compared with SE Asia, the former sinking, having as SonderB said, sold its manufacturing base and the latter getting stronger?

Am I knocking the UK? No. There are good people there but ask anyone outside the UK and they shake their heads in disbelief. I am knocking the people who can only think negatively and they are thinking only of themselves and their financial backers. The road crash that was Brexit will be made worse if the laws are scrapped. It would be much easier and more plausible if Smug-Rees and the ERM picked out some specific laws for scrapping, like metrication and then we would think it was progressive, rather than through their hatred?

 

Government figures do indeed cite 45,756 as being the total number of crossings in 2022.  That does sound high, but there's nothing to argue against it.  It's interesting though that since Brexit, since "Taking back control of our borders", crossings have INCREASED, not dwindled away as was predicted.  Of course, if UK were still in the EU, Dublin III would apply and lawful means of moving asylum seekers and illegal migrants away could be had ...

Matthew

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:41pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:41pm

Jenni wrote on Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:08pm:

I thought this thread had been put to bed. Do we really need another lecture from you, saying the same thing but in a different way.  You sure like the sound of your own voice. have a nice day.

Jenni, please don't dictate what contributors to this forum should or should not do. This is a friendly discussion forum open to everybody and it's good to see people contributing, even you.

devo49

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:16pm

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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2023 4:16pm

DarioMartin wrote on Fri Feb 17, 2023 12:34pm:

Government figures do indeed cite 45,756 as being the total number of crossings in 2022.  That does sound high, but there's nothing to argue against it.  It's interesting though that since Brexit, since "Taking back control of our borders", crossings have INCREASED, not dwindled away as...

... was predicted.  Of course, if UK were still in the EU, Dublin III would apply and lawful means of moving asylum seekers and illegal migrants away could be had ...

Thanks Dario , I might be in my dotage but even I know the difference between 45,000 and 4,500 ish . 

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