Scrapping EU laws and the Ex-Pat?>

Jazus! Shay, I nearly choked on my toast after reading your post and I live in Ireland. I’ve searched the Sunday Times and couldn’t find any such information. Can you post a link? One wonders what the Tories will do next!

Yes - I've seen this mooted.  They seem to think they can have it done and dusted by the end of the year, despite Civil Servants saying "not possible" - its the willfully blind Brexit Brigade at it again, believing as Shay says that this simply formalises a break with the EU - no, this is most definitely not the case, it takes laws such as the Labour laws back to pre-EU times when workers rights were implemented.

It is simply an attempt by this incredibly corrupt government lead by an inept and weak Prime Minister to put the country in the position of not being ABLE to rejoin the EU once they are booted out of power.

Yes, it was mooted some time ago but it is actually tabled as a motion in the houses of parliament. The  numbers of laws and amendments to be scrapped  is quoted as tow to four thousand. They are to be scrapped, not debated and not replaced. I will try and find the newspaper articles later on today.

Like you I was shocked a) that someone would get this put on the table b) no one much, especially ex-pats who are already climbing through new red tape etc are not up in arms. I guess partly because they just see it as the remains of Brexit and not vital laws that benefitted us.

At best some laws will go back one step, say the MoT (ITV/NCT equivalent) for annual testing could reduce  to less stringent regulations - or would it? Well, my take is that the cowboys must be rubbing their hands with glee at the opportunities this presents. it will also affect any law passed in the last 44 years, without question, without debate.

The only group voice against what is happening are the 'Remain' groups (4 that became one alliance). There are some smaller groups of specific interest that are raising concerns but doing nothing. The main political parties are wary of going near or seeming to go near Brexit for fear of damaging their credibility to the Brexit fans in the next election (before Xmas 2025). I think too that Ex-Pats are in the same mood and want to get on with things but what a good time to take more control? The motion was put in place by Smug-Rees and the ERM that were largely responsible for Brexit.

A final point I would like to make is the current talks are going to take forever and will only provide a framework for the future relationship with Europe - generally that would be travel and trade, possibly reciprocal health agreements etc. The ERM types don't need or want it and are happy to go it alone and so are dragging their feet. Any failure to get an agreement will put the UK (and its citizens) in the same category as the USA or North Korea?

Can it get worse?

Expats are probably blasé because they don't think that it will have too much effect on anyone who already has residency, and to that end, I agree (not with the attitude, just the reasoning) that for those already with permanent residency, it won't have much effect.  

For those SEEKING residency here, however .... it will add difficulties in terms of documents required to support an application no longer being recognised and an extra cost incurred in trying to get recognised documentation.  It's an absolute cluster f*ck - what country in it's right mind wants to go BACKWARDS and not forwards?  well, brain-dead brexiteers for one I guess, and those who say they don't ever want to travel outside England, so they don't care .... they'll care when workers rights get rolled right back to the 70's though.

I can imagine the trumpist republicans in America looking at this and saying YEAH - and we can roll things back even further.

I hoinestly think the tories have gone completely potty and simply want to roll the country back to feudal times when those with wealth had everything and were above the law and everyone else was a trivial peasnat, unworthy of consideration or care.

If ever there was time for a bloody revolution ... and the King is now just a figurehead ... I suppose he COULD withold consent for repeal of such laws - but would he?  The Lunatics truly have taken over the asylum

I have found media reports on this matter. I can’t believe that the turkeys who somehow avoided last Christmas are now providing more ways to have common sense extinct in the near future. 

I can’t believe the UK has got itself into such a state as it has - Nurses striking - Ambulance Crews striking - Train Drivers striking - Civil Servants about to strike - Trade Union agreements to be scrapped - But, according to some of the Tories on this forum Brexit as a Work in Progress drives on; only issue the drivers can’t see.

Not only can the drivers not see, they've had their licences revoked for being utterly insane and a danger to everyone else

Good comments but really I think this has been brewing for some time (20yrs) and the strikes are now the realisation that a path to a future of opportunity and some wealth is being closed down. Too late for Brexit but can anything be saved as the slide continues? The Tories have been controlled by the anti-EU camp for some time. having made their own party and TV station they then climbed back in the party supported with the money barons.

Tories have wanted the privatisation of the health Service for some time and whatever the result of the strike they will claim more money has to come from private hands, not just Rod Stewarts pop fortune and so it is a win win?

As for the turkeys? What politician would refuse the baton of becoming the next PM? Lordship guaranteed afterwards even after Liz's 45 days, though many said she shouldn't.

Quite right about the newcomers though and it was a forum entry here about advice on residency that prompted me to write. Either jump now and secure what you can or wait and see if it will be possible at all. The whole residency thing is becoming more complex. I have done it a couple of times now but the problem is it doesn't affect your nationality or citizenship yet the people doing the bureaucracy don't seem to understand the difference. This can only get more complicated.

Eventually I am hoping that more people beyond you two will read this and begin to ask questions both  of their MPs in the UK and the representatives of Ex-Pats in Spain, both voluntary and Ambassadorial.  I think there is a government rep for Andalucia or did I dream that up :)

As I have largely been Irish based for some time I could sit back and hope it will pass me by this time but Ireland is still suffering from things like its massively reduced fishing quotas since the hurried agreement between the UK and EU was made (Also in jeopardy if I believe the newspaper reports). The whole Ulster / Gibraltar thing rears its head again here too.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-64294885

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/04/peers-set-to-slow-down-attempts-to-scrap-thousands-of-eu-laws

Going back to feudal times with those with wealth thinking they are above the law? Think we're there already Dario with this Government.

I think you’re right - they certainly act that way!