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Looking for a job: English teaching assistant

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:32pm
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Sal49

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Hi I’m moving hopefully next year if we ever get back to normal, at the moment I work

1-1 with a special needs child, I’m learning basic Spanish at the moment, any advice would be really helpful. 

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:48pm

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Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:48pm

Sal49 wrote on Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:32pm:

Hi I’m moving hopefully next year if we ever get back to normal, at the moment I work

1-1 with a special needs child, I’m learning basic Spanish at the moment, any advice would be really helpful. 

The first question has to be “what passport are you on?” If Irish, skip straight to next part.

If UK … I’m sorry to say that you will be running into problems, as you are very unlikely to get a work permit.  A Spanish company would have to give you a job offer and arrange the permit, and they’d have to show your skill is not available anywhere else in the EU …

That means you’ll have to come over on a Non Lucrative Visa, which does not permit you to work in Spain, only reside.


if however you are on an Irish passport, you will still qualify as an EU citizen for Residencia, which allows you to work.  That, however would be just the beginning, as there is no shortage of very qualified English teachers here and the language schools can take their pick.

Sal49

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:13am

Sal49

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:13am

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Jun 23, 2021 10:48pm:

The first question has to be “what passport are you on?” If Irish, skip straight to next part.

If UK … I’m sorry to say that you will be running into problems, as you are very unlikely to get a work permit.  A Spanish company would have to give you a job offer and arrange the permit, and they’d have to show your skill is not available anywhere else in the EU …...

...

That means you’ll have to come over on a Non Lucrative Visa, which does not permit you to work in Spain, only reside.


if however you are on an Irish passport, you will still qualify as an EU citizen for Residencia, which allows you to work.  That, however would be just the beginning, as there is no shortage of very qualified English teachers here and the language schools can take their pick.

Thanks for your reply, bar work it is then, I’m guessing it’s not that easy to find a 

Casual job? 

DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:25am

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:25am

Sal49 wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:13am:

Thanks for your reply, bar work it is then, I’m guessing it’s not that easy to find a 

Casual job? 

Again, what passport? I’m guessing Irish by your answer of picking up casual work. (On an NLV for UK Passport holders, absolutely no remunerated work of any kind, casual or full time is permitted)

Ok, bar / waitress work is a possibility, but Covid closed a lot of bars / Chiringuitos which put a lot of qualified waiters / waitresses / bar staff out looking for work.

 Depending on where you settle, language will be the big issue as in many of the bars and restaurants, whilst you get English speaking customers, you get many that speak no English at all - I speak from experience here … again, depends on the area.

Bar / wait staff can earn up to around 7€ per hour … but I know some places that pay as little as 3€ per hour.  And you will work long long hours.

Sal49

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:45am

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:45am

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:25am:

Again, what passport? I’m guessing Irish by your answer of picking up casual work. (On an NLV for UK Passport holders, absolutely no remunerated work of any kind, casual or full time is permitted)

Ok, bar / waitress work is a possibility, but Covid closed a lot of bars / Chiringuitos which put a lot of qualified waiters / waitresses / bar staff out looking for work....

...

 Depending on where you settle, language will be the big issue as in many of the bars and restaurants, whilst you get English speaking customers, you get many that speak no English at all - I speak from experience here … again, depends on the area.

Bar / wait staff can earn up to around 7€ per hour … but I know some places that pay as little as 3€ per hour.  And you will work long long hours.

Sorry uk passport 

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DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:21am

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:21am

Sal49 wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:45am:

Sorry uk passport 

Ah, in which case, unless you get a work permit (which is highly unlikely, unfortunately), you will not be permitted to do any form of remunerated employment of any manner for the first 5 years.

Once you have permanent residency, you can then work - but it’s why the financial requirement of 27.500€ per annum is so high - it’s to ensure you can support yourself without income.

I don’t believe there’s anything that stops you taking an online / zoom teaching job, as long as the money paid you does not originate in Spain - i.e. if you teach English online to Thai / Chinese / Latin American etc students via a non-Spanish owned or run platform.

You have the experience so it’s wise to try and build on that - what English teaching qualifications do you have?

Sal49

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:13pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:13pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:21am:

Ah, in which case, unless you get a work permit (which is highly unlikely, unfortunately), you will not be permitted to do any form of remunerated employment of any manner for the first 5 years.

Once you have permanent residency, you can then work - but it’s why the financial requirement of 27.500€ per annum is so high - it’s to ensure you can support yourself without income....

...

I don’t believe there’s anything that stops you taking an online / zoom teaching job, as long as the money paid you does not originate in Spain - i.e. if you teach English online to Thai / Chinese / Latin American etc students via a non-Spanish owned or run platform.

You have the experience so it’s wise to try and build on that - what English teaching qualifications do you have?

I’ve got level 3 keyworker and qualified to teach children with dyslexia, I feel abit low after reading your comments, didn’t know it would be this hard but always been my dream to move to Spain. Thanks for your help though.

DarioMartin

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:30pm

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:30pm

Sal49 wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:13pm:

I’ve got level 3 keyworker and qualified to teach children with dyslexia, I feel abit low after reading your comments, didn’t know it would be this hard but always been my dream to move to Spain. Thanks for your help though.

It never used to be this hard.  You could turn up, get a rental, register and get a job.  A certain thing beginning with “B” changed all that unfortunately.

Your biggest obstacle will of course be meeting the financial requirements - or maybe it won’t - I don’t know your circumstances - but I would encourage you to search various American sites for “teach English in Spain” to get a really good idea of what is required, how much you’ll need etc etc as they’ve had to follow this route for many years and are fairly practiced at navigating it now 

Sal49

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:53pm

Sal49

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Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:53pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Jun 24, 2021 6:30pm:

It never used to be this hard.  You could turn up, get a rental, register and get a job.  A certain thing beginning with “B” changed all that unfortunately.

Your biggest obstacle will of course be meeting the financial requirements - or maybe it won’t - I don’t know your circumstances - but I would encourage you to search various American sites for “teach English in Spain” to get a really good idea of what is required, how much you’ll need ...

...etc etc as they’ve had to follow this route for many years and are fairly practiced at navigating it now 

Thanks so much for all your help. I will look into the renting before buying and the American sites.

Susi

Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:15am

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Posted: Tue Jul 6, 2021 9:15am

Sal49 wrote on Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:32pm:

Hi I’m moving hopefully next year if we ever get back to normal, at the moment I work

1-1 with a special needs child, I’m learning basic Spanish at the moment, any advice would be really helpful. 

Hi Sal.  The advice Dario has already given you is spot on. To try and secure work here now ( post Brexit and with ongoing Covid restrictions) is going to be extremely difficult for all the reasons he has explained. Language teachers here,  whether working with Special educational needs students or not,  need to have appropriate TEFL qualifications and have a good level of fluency in Spanish. Also, you should bear in mind that most language schools close over the summer (end June through to mid September) which means that even with a work contract you would need to fund yourself from other sources for 3 months of the year. If you work as an autonomo you will have to fund your own seguridad social payments. There are initial reductions but these are time limited on a rising scale (rising up to monthly payments in the region of 320€). On top of that you will need to earn enough to pay your rent plus utilities bills before you can consider daily expenses. You also need to bear in mind that you will have to make a tax declaration and pay income tax ( Renta) in a system where personal allowances are considerably lower than in the UK. I suggest you research costs of living here and the likelihood of securing work VERY thoroughly before making a final decision about whether to relocate - it's all too easy to get into financial difficulties very quickly here and the Spanish authorities make no bones about fining people who dont pay their dues. 

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