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Holiday Season 2021 - Much Hope

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:27am
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Everything I predicted for the main holiday season in 2020 came through - mainly bad news and in many ways turned out worse than my prediction. However, we're facing into 2021 with much hope.

1. Several Covid vaccines are on the way and it appears they will be distributed quicker than initially expected.

2. The Boeing-737-Max appears to be getting favourable reports and soon will be back in service and Ryanair with additional aircraft will be flooding whatever airport it can with plenty of money spending tourists. 

3. Business people (who survived) in holiday destinations will be licking their wounds because of losses in 2020 and will be intent on making 2021 more successful than most years. 

4. I know first chance people get to visit theatres, bars, restaurants, hairdressers, beauty centres etc they will jump at the opportunity. It's the same with holidays. 

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04pm

Matthew wrote on Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:27am:

Everything I predicted for the main holiday season in 2020 came through - mainly bad news and in many ways turned out worse than my prediction. However, we're facing into 2021 with much hope.

1. Several Covid vaccines are on the way and it appears they will be distributed quicker than initially expected....

...

2. The Boeing-737-Max appears to be getting favourable reports and soon will be back in service and Ryanair with additional aircraft will be flooding whatever airport it can with plenty of money spending tourists. 

3. Business people (who survived) in holiday destinations will be licking their wounds because of losses in 2020 and will be intent on making 2021 more successful than most years. 

4. I know first chance people get to visit theatres, bars, restaurants, hairdressers, beauty centres etc they will jump at the opportunity. It's the same with holidays. 

I love your positivity x

Matthew

Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:50pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:50pm

Maggiep wrote on Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:04pm:

I love your positivity x

Let's keep it positive. When you are at the bottom there only one way to go and that's up.

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:56pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:56pm

the whole thing is going to hinge on the vaccine,uptake worldwide needs to be as high as possible,and in Europe especially so,

as for the 737 MAX lets hope that it is 'fixed' and not just 'smoke and mirrors' from the FAA and Boeing,it is strange that Boeing say pilots will undergo more training? why ? if it is fixed,

But fingers crossed all will be well as I have missed my usual trip

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:08pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:08pm

hartcjhart wrote on Thu Nov 19, 2020 6:56pm:

the whole thing is going to hinge on the vaccine,uptake worldwide needs to be as high as possible,and in Europe especially so,

as for the 737 MAX lets hope that it is 'fixed' and not just 'smoke and mirrors' from the FAA and Boeing,it is strange that Boeing say pilots will undergo more training? why ? if it is fixed,...

...

But fingers crossed all will be well as I have missed my usual trip

You’re dead right about uptake of vaccine needing to be high.  There is so much mis- and disinformation about this vaccine in particular and vaccines in general from the anti-vaxxer lobby who have their own agenda, that many are running scared.

Ive spoken to a few of my clients who have already said they won’t have the vaccine straight away, but will instead “wait and see”

Wait and see what, I don’t know but it appears to be a very cultural attitude - we have people not coming to us, saying they want to “wait and see” ... but cannot articulate what it is they are waiting to see.

I hope there is big uptake though, because maybe that will break the fear that appears to have a good many people in self-imposed lockdown.

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:03pm

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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:03pm

DarioMartin wrote on Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:08pm:

You’re dead right about uptake of vaccine needing to be high.  There is so much mis- and disinformation about this vaccine in particular and vaccines in general from the anti-vaxxer lobby who have their own agenda, that many are running scared.

Ive spoken to a few of my clients who have already said they won’t have the vaccine straight away, but will instead “wait and see”...

...

Wait and see what, I don’t know but it appears to be a very cultural attitude - we have people not coming to us, saying they want to “wait and see” ... but cannot articulate what it is they are waiting to see.

I hope there is big uptake though, because maybe that will break the fear that appears to have a good many people in self-imposed lockdown.

Wait and see? we will all have to wait and see unless you are in your 80s/ 70s or involved in critical care,
although only in my 60s I am part of the 'critical infrastructure, power generation', so expect to be invited not long after those above

the 'anti vaxxers' what a mob they are,wont take it themselves BUT will benefit from those that do(and that covers all vaccines)

I dont think it is 'fear' being in self imposed lockdown,more being more safety aware,(something you are involved in) ,since the first lockdown then re-opening,then lockdown I have not been out to socialise,not from fear but from respect to my friends and family and to avoid the idiots that think it is acceptable to ignore all the advice
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Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:00am

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Yes I know your all going to shoot me down, but the' anti=vaxxers'  as you call them could have many reasons for not wanting to put an drug inside them that hasn't had the long test period, these vaccines have been rushed thru out of shear panic, I can understand the panic, with 10,000 people dieing in one day a few days ago it is very scary. But I already have a very compromised immune system, I dont have the flu jab because it causes me more harm than good, I am very wary of what invasive drugs I put in my body. So I will be 'wait and see.'

O and by the way, even when most people have had this jab, and are walking around thinking they are now immune I for one will still be wearing my mask, practising social distancing etc.

Like Matthews Postive attitude.

Jenni

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Jenni wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 10:00am:

Yes I know your all going to shoot me down, but the' anti=vaxxers'  as you call them could have many reasons for not wanting to put an drug inside them that hasn't had the long test period, these vaccines have been rushed thru out of shear panic, I can understand the panic, with 10,000 peopl...

...e dieing in one day a few days ago it is very scary. But I already have a very compromised immune system, I dont have the flu jab because it causes me more harm than good, I am very wary of what invasive drugs I put in my body. So I will be 'wait and see.'

O and by the way, even when most people have had this jab, and are walking around thinking they are now immune I for one will still be wearing my mask, practising social distancing etc.

Like Matthews Postive attitude.

Jenni

I take no issue with those that are leery of a jab from a new vaccine, I can understand their reservations.

I take issue with those who use this particular vaccine as a springboard to promote their own agenda and deliberately spread false and misleading information about vaccines in general.

(My favourite bit of nonsense though has to be that Bill Gates is going to use the vaccine to insert a nanochip in us all.  The breadth and depth of the utter tinfoil-hatted craziness in that bit of complete nonsense is absolutely breathtaking)

Jenni, you are of course perfectly entitled to continue wearing a mask - and I am sure many people will.  But at some point we have to work together to try and bring / show reassurance, and try restore some form of normality.  It's too easy for people to become afraid, for the fear to take hold, become pervasive.  Then "when things are better" slowly becomes an undefined and indeterminate time, used as a reason not to go out; and people continue to suffer.  Not just small businesses, restaurants, cafes, bars because people are just too afraid to now step outside their isolation bubbles, but the mental health of people.  If the fear continues to be reinforced, many more will feel a sense of hopelessness and the resultant depression may well lead to more unnecessary loss of life.

We MUST respect this virus, we must combat it, and take the right measures to combat it.  But we must NOT let it control us, take over our lives, force us into living in fear.  However you term it, whatever you choose to call the self-isolation, whatever colour you paint it, you. are. living. in. fear.

Not screaming, knee-shaking terror.  But a fear that your leaving the house may infect someone else, that you may pick up something and unknowingly carry it elsewhere and a thousand other instances of excuses not to leave your house or go to a restaurant or for a walk or ..or ... or ....

If we all wait "until it is better", there will be nothing left to have waited for.  And then we'll all complain that our favourite bars and restaurants and shops etc have closed down and it's all the governments fault.

But it won't be.  It'll be our fault for not respecting the virus, but instead letting unreasoning fear control us.

This will not be a popular opinion, I know I am going to take fire for daring suggest we all stop letting fear control us.  But before the keyboard warriors let loose their salvos, take time to read what I have written.  I am not suggesting there is no pandemic, I am not suggesting the measures we are taking are a form of government control, I am not suggesting we breach curfew, go on marches and demonstrations, demand and end to restrictions etc. etc.  All I am suggesting is that when curfew is lifted, when borders are opened, when we are once again allowed to move about, let us try and go about our daily lives as normally as possible within the framework of whatever restrictions still exist.

Respect the virus, take appropriate measures.
Don't let fear of it control you.

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DarioMartin wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:54pm:

I take no issue with those that are leery of a jab from a new vaccine, I can understand their reservations.

I take issue with those who use this particular vaccine as a springboard to promote their own agenda and deliberately spread false and misleading information about vaccines in general.

(My favourite bit of nonsense though has to be that Bill Gates is going to use the vaccine to insert a nanochip in us all.  The breadth and depth of the utter tinfoil-hatted craziness in that bit of complete nonsense is absolutely breathtaking)

Jenni, you are of course perfectly entitled to continue wearing a mask - and I am sure many people will.  But at some point we have to work together to try and bring / show reassurance, and try restore some form of normality.  It's too easy for people to become afraid, for the fear to take hold, become pervasive.  Then "when things are better" slowly becomes an undefined and indeterminate time, used as a reason not to go out; and people continue to suffer.  Not just small businesses, restaurants, cafes, bars because people are just too afraid to now step outside their isolation bubbles, but the mental health of people.  If the fear continues to be reinforced, many more will feel a sense of hopelessness and the resultant depression may well lead to more unnecessary loss of life.

We MUST respect this virus, we must combat it, and take the right measures to combat it.  But we must NOT let it control us, take over our lives, force us into living in fear.  However you term it, whatever you choose to call the self-isolation, whatever colour you paint it, you. are. living. in. fear.

Not screaming, knee-shaking terror.  But a fear that your leaving the house may infect someone else, that you may pick up something and unknowingly carry it elsewhere and a thousand other instances of excuses not to leave your house or go to a restaurant or for a walk or ..or ... or ....

If we all wait "until it is better", there will be nothing left to have waited for.  And then we'll all complain that our favourite bars and restaurants and shops etc have closed down and it's all the governments fault.

But it won't be.  It'll be our fault for not respecting the virus, but instead letting unreasoning fear control us.

This will not be a popular opinion, I know I am going to take fire for daring suggest we all stop letting fear control us.  But before the keyboard warriors let loose their salvos, take time to read what I have written.  I am not suggesting there is no pandemic, I am not suggesting the measures we are taking are a form of government control, I am not suggesting we breach curfew, go on marches and demonstrations, demand and end to restrictions etc. etc.  All I am suggesting is that when curfew is lifted, when borders are opened, when we are once again allowed to move about, let us try and go about our daily lives as normally as possible within the framework of whatever restrictions still exist.

Respect the virus, take appropriate measures.
Don't let fear of it control you.

Too true

Jenni

Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 4:26pm

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DarioMartin wrote on Fri Nov 20, 2020 12:54pm:

I take no issue with those that are leery of a jab from a new vaccine, I can understand their reservations.

I take issue with those who use this particular vaccine as a springboard to promote their own agenda and deliberately spread false and misleading information about vaccines in general.

(My favourite bit of nonsense though has to be that Bill Gates is going to use the vaccine to insert a nanochip in us all.  The breadth and depth of the utter tinfoil-hatted craziness in that bit of complete nonsense is absolutely breathtaking)

Jenni, you are of course perfectly entitled to continue wearing a mask - and I am sure many people will.  But at some point we have to work together to try and bring / show reassurance, and try restore some form of normality.  It's too easy for people to become afraid, for the fear to take hold, become pervasive.  Then "when things are better" slowly becomes an undefined and indeterminate time, used as a reason not to go out; and people continue to suffer.  Not just small businesses, restaurants, cafes, bars because people are just too afraid to now step outside their isolation bubbles, but the mental health of people.  If the fear continues to be reinforced, many more will feel a sense of hopelessness and the resultant depression may well lead to more unnecessary loss of life.

We MUST respect this virus, we must combat it, and take the right measures to combat it.  But we must NOT let it control us, take over our lives, force us into living in fear.  However you term it, whatever you choose to call the self-isolation, whatever colour you paint it, you. are. living. in. fear.

Not screaming, knee-shaking terror.  But a fear that your leaving the house may infect someone else, that you may pick up something and unknowingly carry it elsewhere and a thousand other instances of excuses not to leave your house or go to a restaurant or for a walk or ..or ... or ....

If we all wait "until it is better", there will be nothing left to have waited for.  And then we'll all complain that our favourite bars and restaurants and shops etc have closed down and it's all the governments fault.

But it won't be.  It'll be our fault for not respecting the virus, but instead letting unreasoning fear control us.

This will not be a popular opinion, I know I am going to take fire for daring suggest we all stop letting fear control us.  But before the keyboard warriors let loose their salvos, take time to read what I have written.  I am not suggesting there is no pandemic, I am not suggesting the measures we are taking are a form of government control, I am not suggesting we breach curfew, go on marches and demonstrations, demand and end to restrictions etc. etc.  All I am suggesting is that when curfew is lifted, when borders are opened, when we are once again allowed to move about, let us try and go about our daily lives as normally as possible within the framework of whatever restrictions still exist.

Respect the virus, take appropriate measures.
Don't let fear of it control you.

Of course your last 2 paragraphs are correct, but I thought that is exactly what I am doing now, I don't call wearing a mask ' living in fear' I call it taking precautions. You would like to see people return to norm as soon as possible, I think I have that right, I am sure you will correct me if I haven't. and so would I,  but I dont think anyone should be pressured into doing something that they dont feel comfortable with, so if they want to isolate, wear a mask, or wave flags from the top of their roof thats all good by me. I am not someone that follows the crowd, and I dont think people should be made to feel they are holding society back because they choose to take things very very slowly.

I just want to make one point we will never get back to normal if cafe/bar/resturants, dont adhere to the rules, the rules are when in one of these establishments, you are suppost to wear a mask, only to pull it down to put food or drink in your mouth and then to chew or swallow you must put you mask back in place. (yes I know its crazy but its  the law) I can name you several cafe/bars in Albox that openly flaunt that rule, sitting outside no masks in sight and being served. If people like them and the owners of the bars.cafe's stuck to the rules then this pandemic would be over sooner rather than later. So if people loses their businesses and  favourite bars/cafes close for good forever, then they have no one else but to blame but themselves.

rant over!!

Have a good weekend all.

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