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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 6:26pm
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If you havecan irish passport&buy a place in spain as at first a holiday home&you stay under the 183 days so you dont become a tax resident&return to uk to.stay with family how long do you have to be out of spain before you can return. I know its 90/180 for uk passport holders 

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:16pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:16pm

Read Carefully and you won't need to ask another question on the matter:-  

1. Rep of Ireland is within the EU and those possessing an Irish Passport are deemed citizens of Rep of Ireland.

2. An Irish Citizen may stay in Spain for 182 days in a Rolling Year as against a calendar year 1st Jan - 31st Dec).

3. A Rolling Year begins on the first day you arrive in Spain. From that date you may spend 182 days legally in Spain within the next year (12 months). It does not have to be continuous and you may visit as often as you like provided your total stay in Spain over the Rolling Year does not exceed 182 days.

4. If you're a person who will spend around  of 180 days in Spain in any twelve months period you could do worse than to print off a yearly calendar and tick off the days on which you are in Spain. You may need two calendars for this. All you've got to do then is count the number of days backwards to your first visit to Spain and keep the calculation within the Rolling Year. This is the simplest way to calculate and there are no complicated calculations. 

5. A Rolling Year can overlap on your previous stay(s) and you probably will "wipe" days from your Rolling Year. When it's all down on paper the figures become obvious.

6. Just something to watch out for:- Even a part of a day is considered a full day e.g. if your flight is at 1.15am and although you've spent only 75 mins of that day in Spain, it is considered a full day. The same goes for days of arrival. In this process there is no such thing as part of a day.

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:30pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:30pm

Matthew wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 7:16pm:

Read Carefully and you won't need to ask another question on the matter:-  

1. Rep of Ireland is within the EU and those possessing an Irish Passport are deemed citizens of Rep of Ireland.

2. An Irish Citizen may stay in Spain for 182 days in a Rolling Year as against a calendar year 1st Jan - 31st Dec).

3. A Rolling Year begins on the first day you arrive in Spain. From that date you may spend 182 days legally in Spain within the next year (12 months). It does not have to be continuous and you may visit as often as you like provided your total stay in Spain over the Rolling Year does not exceed 182 days.

4. If you're a person who will spend around  of 180 days in Spain in any twelve months period you could do worse than to print off a yearly calendar and tick off the days on which you are in Spain. You may need two calendars for this. All you've got to do then is count the number of days backwards to your first visit to Spain and keep the calculation within the Rolling Year. This is the simplest way to calculate and there are no complicated calculations. 

5. A Rolling Year can overlap on your previous stay(s) and you probably will "wipe" days from your Rolling Year. When it's all down on paper the figures become obvious.

6. Just something to watch out for:- Even a part of a day is considered a full day e.g. if your flight is at 1.15am and although you've spent only 75 mins of that day in Spain, it is considered a full day. The same goes for days of arrival. In this process there is no such thing as part of a day.

Hi and thank you i need to read&digest this🤣.. 

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:42pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:42pm

Vera wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 7:30pm:

Hi and thank you i need to read&digest this🤣.. 

Vera, I am pleased you asked the question as there are many untruths going round regarding the matter. 

Simplistic and Accurate Way of Calculating the Number of Days in YOUR Rolling Year:- Print off two calendars from the internet and just tick off each day (or part of a day) you spent in Spain over the previous 12 month period. If the total adds up to less than 182 days you're legally in Spain. If the total is more than 182 you may feel like the guy in Midnight Express next time you're departing a Spanish airport.

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:49pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:49pm

Matthew wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 7:42pm:

Vera, I am pleased you asked the question as there are many untruths going round regarding the matter. 

Simplistic and Accurate Way of Calculating the Number of Days in YOUR Rolling Year:- Print off two calendars from the internet and just tick off each day (or part of a day) you spent in Spain over the previous 12 month period. If the total adds up to less than 182 days you're legally in Spain. If...

... the total is more than 182 you may feel like the guy in Midnight Express next time you're departing a Spanish airport.

Hi and thank you so many things to consider. So if lets say i spend 180 days in one go in one year and return to uk how long do i have to stay in uk before i can return to spain?

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:55pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 7:55pm

Vera wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 7:49pm:

Hi and thank you so many things to consider. So if lets say i spend 180 days in one go in one year and return to uk how long do i have to stay in uk before i can return to spain?

Simple, Tick off each of those days on your calendar(s). Pick a date when you wish to return to Spain and before you book flights count back the days over the previous 12 months period. Just ensure the total number of days does not exceed 182.

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:03pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:03pm

Matthew wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 7:55pm:

Simple, Tick off each of those days on your calendar(s). Pick a date when you wish to return to Spain and before you book flights count back the days over the previous 12 months period. Just ensure the total number of days does not exceed 182.

So i can only stay in spain for a total of 182 days in spain in any one year. (6 months) same as a uk passport holder??

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:12pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:12pm

Vera wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 8:03pm:

So i can only stay in spain for a total of 182 days in spain in any one year. (6 months) same as a uk passport holder??

1. I don't know how the Brexit situation regarding time in Spain works for people who have a UK passport only. As the UK is not within the EU each case stands on its merit as Schengen Rules kick in and all days spent in say France, Italy etc are also added.

2. Let's take an example for somebody with an Irish Passport:- Vera arrives in Spain on 1st June and stays there continuously for 182 days and leaves on November 29th (182 days). Vera cannot return to Spain until 2nd June the following year. Vera can then remain in Spain until 30th November (182 days).

Please do not confuse Rolling Year with Calendar Year.

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:23pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 8:23pm

Matthew wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 8:12pm:

1. I don't know how the Brexit situation regarding time in Spain works for people who have a UK passport only. As the UK is not within the EU each case stands on its merit as Schengen Rules kick in and all days spent in say France, Italy etc are also added.

2. Let's take an example for somebody with an Irish Passport:- Vera arrives in Spain on 1st June and stays there continuously for 182 days and leaves on November 29th (182 days). Vera cannot return to Spain until 2nd June the following year. Vera can then remain in Spain until 30th November (182 ...

...days).

Please do not confuse Rolling Year with Calendar Year.

Hi and thank you thats a bit clearer. Will have to re-think my plans of how to work my move out. Appreciate your assistance

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 10:26pm

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Posted: Thu May 26, 2022 10:26pm

Vera wrote on Thu May 26, 2022 6:26pm:

If you havecan irish passport&buy a place in spain as at first a holiday home&you stay under the 183 days so you dont become a tax resident&return to uk to.stay with family how long do you have to be out of spain before you can return. I know its 90/180 for uk passport holders 

If you have an Irish passport you can come and go as you please - no minimum time BUT … if you spend any more than 183 days in a tax year in Spain (Jan - Dec) you become tax resident … 

So if you spend 6 months here (180 days), theoretically you can go back to UK and return next day if you wanted … but any more than 3 days puts you over tax threshold.

So whilst there’s no 90/180 limit for you, your own limit to avoid tax residence is 183 days a year

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