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Barking Dogs

Posted: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:45am
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William1610

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Can someone please tell me why the Brits have to have packs of dogs and not just one.  Some will say it is to keep the other dog company.  But isnt that the reason the owner gets a dog in the first place , for company.

Also why is it that the owners once they have obtained their dogs they become "bark Deaf"  they dont seem to be able to hear their yappy dogs.  This morning and most mornings I get up the the sound of , not the birds, but yapping dogs

It is now 11.40. and I have this yapping for the last hour at least and it continues through out the day and most days..

Before i came her I loved dogs and i have had a dog, just one, since I was 5.

Please dog owners consider your neighbours and keep your dogs from yapping.  It is possible. With good trained owners.

Matthew

Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:00am

Matthew

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Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:00am

Your identity is probably known even now to the Brit Secret Dog Police in Spain. How dare you throw criticism at barking dogs and their owners. Did you not know, these dogs are the most protected and precious species on the planet? The dogs are considered superior to humankind and not only can continue to bark loudly and drop their loads everywhere, but terrify people too while their stupid and uncaring  owners look on giving you looks of disdain and treating you like you are the lowest form of life. For some reason they refuse to clean up after their dogs too. These cretin dog owners believe that their dogs can drive petrol delivery trucks in the UK, such is their adoration.

This subject has been discussed previously on this forum and even some solutions offered by caring people some living in fear of uncontrolled dogs. 

We have two dogs in Ireland (Winston and Adolf) and we have trained them to respect humans and everything else and we keep full control of them at all times. 

Now as for feral cats  . . . I'll desist temptation to talk as my life probably would be in the same danger as yours and I'd have to immediately retreat to the bunker for the rest of my days. 

Shay123

Posted: Sun Oct 3, 2021 5:07pm

Shay123

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Posted: Sun Oct 3, 2021 5:07pm

Major problem in Spain and my urbanisation has raised the question recently. We live in two parallel blocks and the sound echos and echos. Mostly I can ignore it but occasionally there is a crescendo of several dogs barking together.

So, I asked what they could do about it, to those that complain and this seems to be as far as I have got with info.

The law says a maximum of five dogs in a domestic property and they have to be well cared for. The Guardia take this seriously as there has been a lot of adverse publicity for Spain about cruelty to animals. They will investigate and will remove dogs that are in an insanitary condition etc. They will also remove them if they are proving to be a nuisance.

If you have a problem you need to talk to the owner - note Mattthews point about this being inflammatry and do not go alone. if the owner is hostile and or you get no success then call the Guardia - they will come and take pictures of the dogs and talk to the owners, they have an established system for this. One of our residents had 9 dogs on the solarium but it is only a two bed apartment with a mum and two children - a teenage boy and tennage girl. The police removed the dogs and now there are only two dogs. This is despite the dogs being clean and well cared for! If you live in an urbanisation you need to check local rules too. local rules can not exceed government rules but it there were rules in place at the time of the building of apartments in recent times - they had to be submitted as part of the planning regulations in recent times.

The more people you have complaining about the same thing will help. Noise is subjective and what annoys you might not annoy aomeone else. The more people the better and if, like us, we have an active president for the residences, who is Spanish and can talk to the Guardia all the better? The Police do take the problem seriously.

Also, keep a record of times and duration? The barking here used to go on for ten minutes or more, an hour one day, and you can not concentrate during that time?

Lastly, the internet is full of stories and tales of people arming their properties with banks of detectors and ultrasound devices that whistle at a dogs bark - the more it barks the more it sounds back in a feedback loop. Maybe over the top but in terms of getting a result and some peace and quiet, great, just expensive. I have found out-staring a dog very useful too - works with cats as well.

Happily I found a better solution - an app for the mobile phone, called 'dog whistle' and it emits a high pitched whine, inaudible to humans and gives the dog a feedback loop it doesn't like. Can't believe how effective it is, although not perfect it did work in most cases and I have recommended it to others in my neighbourhood. Where you may have a problem is dogs left at home they can get an anxiety syndrome - here you need to tell the owner because all they see is a happy dog -use an anonymous note if necessary and get the Police or Guardia involved, they will record it at least for future use?

The situation is not hopeless, good luck!

ps any dog lovers taking exception to this, please note, if that dog is a loved and cherished family member it should  behave like a member of a family and not a wild animal?? The choice is yours.

Doris

Posted: Sun Oct 3, 2021 7:19pm

Doris

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Posted: Sun Oct 3, 2021 7:19pm

I agree with all that is said regarding barking dogs. But the only thing that will suffer are the dogs. The owner will either beat them for causing him problems, or they will be abandoned somewhere, or they will be taken away and possibly euthanised. The lucky few will be re-homed. 

Billbee

Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:01pm

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Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:01pm

Hi I am thinking of buying in arboleas but after reading about the barking dogs well I am so glad I discovered the thread

 listening to Dogs barking all the time is not living at all. I will look elsewhere I think 

Regards 

Billy 

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Doris

Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:29pm

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Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:29pm

Billbee wrote on Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:01pm:

Hi I am thinking of buying in arboleas but after reading about the barking dogs well I am so glad I discovered the thread

 listening to Dogs barking all the time is not living at all. I will look elsewhere I think 

Regards 

Billy 

Barking dogs are not exclusive to Arboleas, it’s all over Spain and is inescapable. 

Shay123

Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:04pm

Shay123

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Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:04pm

Billbee wrote on Mon Oct 4, 2021 2:01pm:

Hi I am thinking of buying in arboleas but after reading about the barking dogs well I am so glad I discovered the thread

 listening to Dogs barking all the time is not living at all. I will look elsewhere I think 

Regards 

Billy 

Hello,

Got to agree here, definitely a southern European problem!

Depending on where you want to live htere are different solutions but I would always reccommend several visits to an area at different times of day than the agent takes you because they often know of problems, at certain times of day or evening when there are noisy neighbours,traffic and other problems. There is also nothing to guarantee an irresponsible animal owner will move next door?

I know from several people renting here it is on their list of questions about property they want to buy in Spain which would not necessarily be on any list for the north of Europe.

I agree with the responsibilty of owners not treating their pets well, especially the country dogs and those for hunting. I would not be the first to see a dead dog hanging from a tree - because it was a bitch and not a good breeder was the reason. However, there is a growing trend to have dogs as fashion items but it is taking a good while longer to transfer the idea that if this dog is part of your family, it should behave like one........  I wait for the howls of laughter from those who know how loudly Spanish people can talk :)  I love the people here but sometimes with dogs you have to learn a few Spanish words to help them with the dogs too?

Billbee

Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:11pm

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Posted: Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:11pm

Shay123 wrote on Mon Oct 4, 2021 5:04pm:

Hello,

Got to agree here, definitely a southern European problem!

Depending on where you want to live htere are different solutions but I would always reccommend several visits to an area at different times of day than the agent takes you because they often know of problems, at certain times of day or evening when there are noisy neighbours,traffic and other problems. There is also nothing to guarantee an irresponsible animal owner will move next door?

I know from several people renting here it is on their list of questions about property they want to buy in Spain which would not necessarily be on any list for the north of Europe.

I agree with the responsibilty of owners not treating their pets well, especially the country dogs and those for hunting. I would not be the first to see a dead dog hanging from a tree - because it was a bitch and not a good breeder was the reason. However, there is a growing trend to have dogs as fashion items but it is taking a good while longer to transfer the idea that if this dog is part of your family, it should behave like one........  I wait for the howls of laughter from those who know how loudly Spanish people can talk :)  I love the people here but sometimes with dogs you have to learn a few Spanish words to help them with the dogs too?

Hi Shay many thanks for your input I agree with you I am a cash buyer and I can buy where I want I will rent for the first 6 months but barking dogs is the first box I will tick 

Thanks for your views 

Kind regards 

Billy 

hartcjhart

Posted: Wed Oct 6, 2021 10:40pm

hartcjhart

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Posted: Wed Oct 6, 2021 10:40pm

Matthew wrote on Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:00am:

Your identity is probably known even now to the Brit Secret Dog Police in Spain. How dare you throw criticism at barking dogs and their owners. Did you not know, these dogs are the most protected and precious species on the planet? The dogs are considered superior to humankind and not only can co...

...ntinue to bark loudly and drop their loads everywhere, but terrify people too while their stupid and uncaring  owners look on giving you looks of disdain and treating you like you are the lowest form of life. For some reason they refuse to clean up after their dogs too. These cretin dog owners believe that their dogs can drive petrol delivery trucks in the UK, such is their adoration.

This subject has been discussed previously on this forum and even some solutions offered by caring people some living in fear of uncontrolled dogs. 

We have two dogs in Ireland (Winston and Adolf) and we have trained them to respect humans and everything else and we keep full control of them at all times. 

Now as for feral cats  . . . I'll desist temptation to talk as my life probably would be in the same danger as yours and I'd have to immediately retreat to the bunker for the rest of my days. 

Matthew you are gonna need this if you keep on

Matthew

Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:01am

Matthew

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Posted: Thu Oct 7, 2021 8:01am

You're right CJ. I've started to dye my hair already and am thinking of applying for some sort of safety  through the witness protection programme. 

The government of RoI has advised us that unless there's another disaster we are in the endgame of Covid (88%+ of population over 12 fully vaccinated). But, when we go to Mojacar I see waitresses French kissing dogs not only those which are brought onto the restaurant terrace but any other mutts that roam in. Do they wash their hands after fondling the dogs? - I've never seen them do. The people in Spain are in as great a chance of becoming badly infected by dogs' bacteria as they are from Covid. But, try telling that to the stupid uncaring people who exercise their dogs while they themselves remain in their cars etc. 

Then there's the waiter/waitress who'll place a bowl of dog-food (probably leftovers) on the same terrace and in case the dog is thirsty follow up with a bowl of water. Is it too much to expect that they feed their dogs outside of the area where humans eat?

The following I witnessed in a well known Mojacar Playa establishment:- Owner brings dog (German Shepherd)  to terrace and rests the dog at the entrance to the toilets thereby impeding the way for anybody using the facilities. A young boy tripped over the dogs tail and the dog growled and jumped up frighteningly and to be honest, I was in fear for the boy. The stupid dog owner shouted at the boy; the waitress scowled the boy. The boy's parents couldn't believe what they were witnessing. The occurance was followed up by the waitress visiting the table and informing the parents that the boy was a danger to the dog. The poor boy was sitting crying and no doubt in further fear. The quicker dogs/cats and stupid humans are barred from restaurant/bar terraces the better.

My own humble protest:- When I see a waiter/waitress fondling animals on the terrace I just get up and leave.

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