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Debbie 925

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Hi everyone ,

I am considering buying an innovation 14 property in Arboleas, and would appreciate any advice or experience on this matter should I buy or not 🤔🤔🤔

Thank you in advance …

Alicia 11

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:20am

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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:20am

we sold our villa in INN14 to someone who did not worry about the time it might take to get the legal papers intending to spend the rest of their lives here.  it was by a legal contract as you can't go through a notary as there are no papers.  you need to be sure that the property has no debts on it and if it has like IBI sort out if you are taking it on or work out a monetary solution with the seller.  Best to consult with the townhall what the situation is as well some people are going for AFOs as they are fed up waiting for INN14 to happen.  In Calle Sherezade they have a fund of money in a bank account to cover costs so that helps but there are still others to consider.  You should also make sure they own the land the property has been built on.  If they have paperwork for that you can buy that and change ownership at the notary.

there are bargains out there (Ours was) but take care. 

Good luck     

Debbie 925

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06am

Debbie 925

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Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:06am

Alicia 11 wrote on Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:20am:

we sold our villa in INN14 to someone who did not worry about the time it might take to get the legal papers intending to spend the rest of their lives here.  it was by a legal contract as you can't go through a notary as there are no papers.  you need to be sure that the property has n...

...o debts on it and if it has like IBI sort out if you are taking it on or work out a monetary solution with the seller.  Best to consult with the townhall what the situation is as well some people are going for AFOs as they are fed up waiting for INN14 to happen.  In Calle Sherezade they have a fund of money in a bank account to cover costs so that helps but there are still others to consider.  You should also make sure they own the land the property has been built on.  If they have paperwork for that you can buy that and change ownership at the notary.

there are bargains out there (Ours was) but take care. 

Good luck     

Thank you so much for taking the time to give me all this very valuable information, I really do appreciate it thank you very much ..

Godzillar35

Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:08am

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Posted: Fri Mar 11, 2022 10:08am

Hi Folks,

We too are looking at properties in the Arboleas area and would be interested to know are there any rough timescales when the properties affected will be made legal, is there a 'list' showing which properties are next and expected dates?

Also, is there a chance that it may never happen and you could be buying something that may never be made legal?

We're visiting the area and properties at the end of the month and would be interested in your thoughts on Almeria, Arboleas etc and what we should consider and remember if we did decide to buy a property here.

Thanks in advance.

Grant & Val.

Donnawez

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:14pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:14pm

Hi there.  Can I ask is innovation 14 applied to all property in Spain, only rustic land and property or only in Arboleas?   We are looking at rustic property in Albox and Oria.  Cheers. 

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Alicia 11

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:15pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:15pm

Donnawez wrote on Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:14pm:

Hi there.  Can I ask is innovation 14 applied to all property in Spain, only rustic land and property or only in Arboleas?   We are looking at rustic property in Albox and Oria.  Cheers. 

inn 14 is only in Arboleas

Donnawez

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:26pm

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Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:26pm

Alicia 11 wrote on Fri Jul 15, 2022 5:15pm:

inn 14 is only in Arboleas

Cheers thank you 😊👍

John1844

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:21am

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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:21am

INN14 only applies to Arboleas - true, i own and rent out an INN14 property. There are lots of illegal properties in the area. These are properties that were illegally built on rural land, the equivalent of building in the green belt in the UK, so it is not a priority of the authorities to make them legal anytime soon…. It may happen, it may not! An AFO is a way of making a property legal without waiting for INN14, or any other edict from the authorities. But again care needs to be taken with this process.When an AFO is applied for the authorities can force the property to be returned to its “as built” state, but they may not. They use google earth to check, and there is no arguing. If the property gets an AFO it will be legal, and will be given deeds. Downside, no alterations will be allowed to the property (pool, extensions, cortejos etc.) If changes are made and found out you can be forced to demolish, you can however erect non-permanent structures (car port, gazebo etc.) The reason all this came about was the builders were unable to split the fields into parcels of land as they were illegal and the district authorities had woken up to what was happening. On a lot of contracts parcelisation triggered the final payment sometimes of many thousand pounds. In most cases the builder still owns the land and will come knocking for the final payment! As you can see this process may not be straight forward and may test you resolve… It is not that the authorities are bad or harsh here, it was the corruption and greedy farmers and builders that caused all the problems. Again if you consider the UK and your local farmer sold half his land and build loads of houses on it, when found think how the UK authorities would react?! Spain is no different, just back in control. When they took control at a district level there were a lot of prosecutions resulting in jail terms for both builders and officials, including some Mayors! There is a wealth of information on here from people involved, some positive and some negative. best advice is to get a highly recommended solicitor and listen to what he tells you! Hope this helps
Donnawez

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:01pm

Posts: 24

Location: Arboleas

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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:01pm

John1844 wrote on Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:21am:

INN14 only applies to Arboleas - true, i own and rent out an INN14 property. There are lots of illegal properties in the area. These are properties that were illegally built on rural land, the equivalent of building in the green belt in the UK, so it is not a priority of the authorities to make them...

... legal anytime soon…. It may happen, it may not! An AFO is a way of making a property legal without waiting for INN14, or any other edict from the authorities. But again care needs to be taken with this process.When an AFO is applied for the authorities can force the property to be returned to its “as built” state, but they may not. They use google earth to check, and there is no arguing. If the property gets an AFO it will be legal, and will be given deeds. Downside, no alterations will be allowed to the property (pool, extensions, cortejos etc.) If changes are made and found out you can be forced to demolish, you can however erect non-permanent structures (car port, gazebo etc.) The reason all this came about was the builders were unable to split the fields into parcels of land as they were illegal and the district authorities had woken up to what was happening. On a lot of contracts parcelisation triggered the final payment sometimes of many thousand pounds. In most cases the builder still owns the land and will come knocking for the final payment! As you can see this process may not be straight forward and may test you resolve… It is not that the authorities are bad or harsh here, it was the corruption and greedy farmers and builders that caused all the problems. Again if you consider the UK and your local farmer sold half his land and build loads of houses on it, when found think how the UK authorities would react?! Spain is no different, just back in control. When they took control at a district level there were a lot of prosecutions resulting in jail terms for both builders and officials, including some Mayors! There is a wealth of information on here from people involved, some positive and some negative. best advice is to get a highly recommended solicitor and listen to what he tells you! Hope this helps

Hi John hey thank you so much for the information and advice.  Incredibly helpful.   You mention getting a highly qualified and recommended solicitor.   Would you have any recommendations of solicitors you have used?   Many thanks John.  

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