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Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2022 5:50pm
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Bigstu

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Hi All, is there anyone on the forum been refused a NLV, about to start the process and we are going to put our house in the UK on the market.

I am concerned that it sells but then get refused a visa.

Am I putting the cart before the horse? TIA.

Juliet Diaz

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:51am

Juliet Diaz

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 9:51am

Hi.

We moved here 3 years ago and sold 2 houses in UK. Each if those houses is now worth 50K more, whereas the properties we bought here ,if anything, have depreciated. My advice to you is do not sell your UK property. It's cheap to rent here and you can rent your UK house. Sorry I can't offer any help re NLV. Best of luck.

Jenni

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:00pm

Jenni

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:00pm

I would agree dont sell your UK house rent it out and with the money rent something here, Spain is full of red tape, I dont know anything about a NLV, but I do know it wont be easy. and they change the rules on a whim.

DarioMartin

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:16pm

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:16pm

Jenni wrote on Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:00pm:

I would agree dont sell your UK house rent it out and with the money rent something here, Spain is full of red tape, I dont know anything about a NLV, but I do know it wont be easy. and they change the rules on a whim.

Correct - the bureaucracy can be a nightmare.  Residencia was easier to get by an order of magnitude, but I personally know two people who (initially) had Residencia refused simply because, bureaucratically speaking, either an “i” wasn’t dotted or a “t” crossed correctly!!

Bigstu

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:26pm

Bigstu

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:26pm

DarioMartin wrote on Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:16pm:

Correct - the bureaucracy can be a nightmare.  Residencia was easier to get by an order of magnitude, but I personally know two people who (initially) had Residencia refused simply because, bureaucratically speaking, either an “i” wasn’t dotted or a “t” crossed correctly!!

Thanks for the info, my concern is I sell my house, get refused a visa and are then essentially homeless. I can't see any reason why I would be refused a visa but you never know.

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Jenni

Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:03pm

Jenni

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Posted: Wed Mar 30, 2022 4:03pm

Better to be safe than sorry.

MaggieB

Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:19pm

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Posted: Thu Mar 31, 2022 12:19pm

I agree.  House prices have risen a huge amount in the UK.  You pay a lot more to buy and sell a property in Spain.  Think about what you could then afford if you return to the UK and your old property rose by 50k in less than 2 years.   Properties here hardly increase at all unless you are lucky.  Maybe rent in Spain first to see if you do like it, particularly the winters when houses are cold.  Good luck with whatever you decide.

hartcjhart

Posted: Fri Apr 1, 2022 11:11pm

hartcjhart

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Posted: Fri Apr 1, 2022 11:11pm

Now Bigstu repeat after me

do not sell my house

do not sell my house

jasnat247

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:07pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:07pm

Bigstu wrote on Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:26pm:

Thanks for the info, my concern is I sell my house, get refused a visa and are then essentially homeless. I can't see any reason why I would be refused a visa but you never know.

We have been here since 7th December 2020. Been refused twice despite having undeniable evidence that we arrived before 2021 which includes an appointment with the police for our NIE. Now on our third application. I would suggest that you follow the sound advice that has been given to you regarding renting as it is not as simple as people think to come here and live. The lawyers or liers over here are eather simple minded or tricksters and trying to find a good one is neer impossible, even when you do find a good one you need to become an IT wiz kid to check everything for piece of mind.

Apart from that life can be very enjoyable. 


DarioMartin

Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:48pm

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Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:48pm

jasnat247 wrote on Sun Apr 10, 2022 10:07pm:

We have been here since 7th December 2020. Been refused twice despite having undeniable evidence that we arrived before 2021 which includes an appointment with the police for our NIE. Now on our third application. I would suggest that you follow the sound advice that has been given to you regardi...

...ng renting as it is not as simple as people think to come here and live. The lawyers or liers over here are eather simple minded or tricksters and trying to find a good one is neer impossible, even when you do find a good one you need to become an IT wiz kid to check everything for piece of mind.

Apart from that life can be very enjoyable. 


The great problem with lawyers here is they often specialize, then when you approach them for say an immigration issue, instead of saying “I don’t know, that’s not my area of speciality” they’ll take your money and promise you whatever it is you want to hear.  Often with disastrous results.

A mistake often made is to use the same lawyers for migration as are used for a house sale.  The house sale will proceed flawlessly and so the assumption is they will be just as competent at migration.

Sometimes they are. Often, they are not.  Tales such as yours jasnat247 are sadly not unusual.  I believe it is maybe a peculiarity of the country in that the lawyers don’t want to admit a lack of knowledge in an area so plunge ahead ….

If someone is migrating and needs lawyers, no matter how good a service they may have received from their house purchase, DON’T use the same lawyers.  Seek help from professionals in migration - i.e. Mundi Abogados (I have no affiliation whatsoever - I just happen to know they specialize in this area and talk frequently with Extranjeria)

Same for tax - seek assistance from an Asesor(a) or Abogado who specializes in tax - you’ll quite often save yourself a great deal of drama and headaches

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