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Captango7653

Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:15pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:15pm

I don’t know where you got the idea that I’d prefer a Panama Hatted gentleman!!!! I was relating my experience of retiring to Spain, integrating with the local community, speak their language, or at least make an attempt to do so. I do not try to surround myself with compatriots and all things familiar to what I left behind before coming here. I was answering the lady as regards living here on the basis of an Irish passport. I have lived here two years since retirement but have had a place here for a long time and know the area. There are genuine British who are here to live the Spanish dream, but unfortunately, in my experience, the vast majority are what I have described.. a British ghetto. And yes, a panama hatted lout is just as disgusting at pot bellied tattoo. 

Matthew

Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:20pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:20pm

Captango7653 wrote on Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:15pm:

I don’t know where you got the idea that I’d prefer a Panama Hatted gentleman!!!! I was relating my experience of retiring to Spain, integrating with the local community, speak their language, or at least make an attempt to do so. I do not try to surround myself with compatriots and all thing...

...s familiar to what I left behind before coming here. I was answering the lady as regards living here on the basis of an Irish passport. I have lived here two years since retirement but have had a place here for a long time and know the area. There are genuine British who are here to live the Spanish dream, but unfortunately, in my experience, the vast majority are what I have described.. a British ghetto. And yes, a panama hatted lout is just as disgusting at pot bellied tattoo. 

Give me the pot bellied tattoo merchants anyday . . . . you'd never see them drinkin' 'alfs!

Captango7653

Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:34pm

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Posted: Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:34pm

Matthew wrote on Tue Jun 9, 2020 10:20pm:

Give me the pot bellied tattoo merchants anyday . . . . you'd never see them drinkin' 'alfs!

I’d be ecstatic if I was given a break from the whole bloody lot of them. I came to live with the Spanish on their terms and integrate, which I really enjoy. If I had wanted the other, I could have retired to Blackburn or Leicester of some other kip like that. 

MJ

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:56pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:56pm

Louisa810 wrote on Fri May 29, 2020 1:13pm:

Hi. Thank you so much for replying. I really appreciate it. 

If someone with an Irish Passport get residency after January 2021 would their Uk spouse and children  automatically qualify for residency as well

DarioMartin

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:25pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 4:25pm

MJ wrote on Sun Jul 19, 2020 3:56pm:

If someone with an Irish Passport get residency after January 2021 would their Uk spouse and children  automatically qualify for residency as well

Their UK Spouse and children would gain entry as the spouse and dependent of an EU Citizen

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chrisso50

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18pm

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Louisa810 wrote on Thu May 28, 2020 7:37pm:

Hi everyone. My husband and I would like to retire to Spain in the future. We both have a parent who was Irish and so we are in the process of applying for dual citizenship. I've looked all over the Internet but I can't seem to find the answer to whether that means we will be able to move to Spai...

...n, just as we would have done, if Brexit hadn't happened? Grateful for any advice. Take care. Louisa

You will be Irish citizens so part of the EU. But it may be important that you get here before 31 December. This is why. Whilst you can obtain residency here at any time as Irish nationals it sounds as if at a future date you will both be U.K. state pensioners. These pensions are uprated annually. But after 31 December the U.K. will only uprate state pensions in line with inflation for those resident here before 31 December.

Chris

MJ

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:19pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:19pm

Thank you

 Does this mean that we can all apply for residencia after Jan 2021 and be treated as EU citizens 

DarioMartin

Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:24pm

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Posted: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:24pm

MJ wrote on Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:19pm:

Thank you

 Does this mean that we can all apply for residencia after Jan 2021 and be treated as EU citizens 

The holder of an Irish passport will be treated as an EU citizen, the spouse and children, if not Irish passport holders, will be treated as dependents of an EU citizen, but not EU citizens in their own right.

It does mean that you can come after 31/12, but I’m not certain what the requirements are for the dependent of an EU Citizen - also, as Chrisso50 has pointed out above, if any of you are subject to British pensions, then the end of the transition period will affect that in that as of 1/1/21, pensions will no longer be uprated annually and reciprocity of health care under the current S1 system will not be available.

MJ

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:45am

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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:45am

Thank you both for your replies.

I will hove to think what to do 

Regards

MJ

Louisa810

Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:32am

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Posted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 11:32am

chrisso50 wrote on Sun Jul 19, 2020 9:18pm:

You will be Irish citizens so part of the EU. But it may be important that you get here before 31 December. This is why. Whilst you can obtain residency here at any time as Irish nationals it sounds as if at a future date you will both be U.K. state pensioners. These pensions are uprated annually...

.... But after 31 December the U.K. will only uprate state pensions in line with inflation for those resident here before 31 December.

Chris

Thank you for this Chris

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